The Sunday Times: "Morrissey’s big mouth is a thorn in the side of his admirers" (July 16, 2023)

Morrissey’s big mouth is a thorn in the side of his admirers​

Former Smiths singer’s ‘flirtation’ with the hard right has led some fans to avoid his Vicar Street gigs

Morrissey, 64, and now a solo artist, plays two concerts at Vicar Street in Dublin this weekend

Morrissey, 64, and now a solo artist, plays two concerts at Vicar Street in Dublin this weekend
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Patrick O’Donoghue
Sunday July 16 2023, 12.01am, The Sunday Times

This charming man? Morrissey is back in town but his apparent hard-right political leanings have some Irish fans wondering if they can separate art from the artist. In a recent interview the star said the suggestion that he had hard-right views was “ludicrous”.

The former lead singer of the Smiths, now a successful solo artist, is in Dublin this weekend to play two sold-out gigs at Vicar Street to mark his 40 years in the music industry.

Morrissey, 64, is the son of working-class Irish Catholic emigrants who left Crumlin, Dublin, to settle in Manchester in the 1950s. A cousin of the former Ireland footballer Robbie Keane, he enjoys an affinity with Irish audiences — but his perceived flirtation with the hard right has led some fans to shun his shows.


He is without a recording deal after parting company with Capitol Records. Two albums, Bonfire of Teenagers and Without Music the World Dies, remain unreleased. Notre Dame, a song he has performed on stage in the past few weeks, led to online criticism because the lyrics appear to cast doubt on the official account of the cause of the 2019 blaze at the cathedral in Paris.
The fire has been the subject of conspiracy theories propagated by alt-right supporters, some of whom blame Islamic extremists. In a rendition of the song on YouTube, in which he holds up rosary beads, Morrissey sings: “Notre Dame, we know who tried to kill you . . . Notre Dame, we will not be silent. Before investigations, they said, ‘This is not terrorism!’” While Morrissey’s anti-royal and anti-Thatcher convictions won plaudits from sections of the Irish public early in his career, he has set many former acolytes against him by wearing the badge of the now-defunct For Britain party and supporting Anne Marie Waters, the hard-right, anti-Islam activist who led it. Separately he has expressed admiration for Nigel Farage, the former leader of Ukip and the nationalist Brexit Party.

“I was very surprised the other day — it was very interesting to me — to see Anne Marie Waters become head of Ukip. Oh no, sorry she didn’t. The voting was rigged. Sorry, I forgot . . . You didn’t get it, did you? You obviously don’t read the news,” he said in a live set on BBC Radio 6 Music in 2017, a comment that was met with bewildered silence by the audience.

Three years later, as the coronavirus pandemic took hold, Morrissey appeared at a London show against a backdrop of digitally altered images of his own album cover wearing a superimposed facemask next to the caption “You are the Quarantined”, a play on the album title You Are the Quarry which reached number two in the UK charts in 2004.

This year footage emerged of Morrissey appearing to berate a flight attendant on a plane to Dublin by clapping sarcastically and speaking over announcements after the aircraft was diverted to Shannon because of thunderstorms. He demanded to speak to the captain and to be let off the plane.

Michael O’Brien, a 47-year-old trade unionist from Dublin, said he now boycotted Morrissey gigs despite having followed his career for decades. He said the singer’s flirtation with hard-right ideology was a disappointment and seeing Morrissey live in America with the For Britain badge was “beyond the pale”.

“I love the music but not the musician, and I’m not going to Vicar Street,” O’Brien said. “I have thought about it a lot. My take on it is that the common thread with Morrissey is that he is a nostalgist, and the nostalgia did have a progressive left tint to it, in particular when he was with the Smiths: a kind of Coronation Street-style nostalgia for working-class life.

“But it has mutated into a different kind of nostalgia where he is uncomfortable with the multicultural direction in which British society went. That is the only way I can make sense of it.”

However, Jane Gaffney, a 24-year-old PhD student, said while she found some of Morrissey’s pronouncements “confusing or disappointing”, her love for him was unaffected. She began listening to his music at 14. “If people don’t love Morrissey they usually hate him. I get a lot of stick for it.”

She said Morrissey’s politics needed to be put into perspective. “There is a difference between saying things and doing things.”

Gaffney secured tickets for both Vicar Street gigs, marking her ninth and tenth times at a Morrissey concert. “He has something that goes beyond music almost,” she said.

Brian Ahern, 53, a civil servant, said he was aware of troubling remarks made by Morrissey but tried to “separate art from artist”.

“I always just go back to music. I like the songs, I like the music and how it inspires you. He is a good wordsmith. I know there is controversy but I really try not to go into that. He is a poet, that’s first and foremost for me.” Morrissey’s “rebellious spirit” was one of the main reasons he continued to be so popular with Irish audiences, Ahern said.

Elizabeth Dwyer, Morrissey’s mother and “best friend”, died in 2020. A holiday home he had bought for her in Cobh, Co Cork, sold for €575,000 this year.
 
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Elitist Trinity boys and 'organisers' working for the billionaire legacy media with the D4 lefty darlings. Their associated groups are funded by the Irish Govt. and the EU for the open border corporate project. Well then so no surprise
 
I really love his voice, I really love his lyrics (some of them), but I don't care for him as a person. Here's a few reasons why, not mentioned in the stupid article:

1) Misappropriating James Baldwin's image and using it freely to promote himself. I think this is outrageously gross. I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say that Baldwin, or his estate, would never approve of this. I bet, if he was still alive, Baldwin would tell Moz emphatically , "I am not your negro!"

2) Morrissey's silence on the death of David Bowie was bad enough, but he's used pictures of himself with Bowie (again to promote himself) since David passed. This is really disgusting behavior especially since Bowie previously refused to give Morrissey permission to use his photo on the cover of The Last Of The Famous International Playboys.

3) Morrissey is the only Rockstar I know of that signs other peoples albums and then sells them for
exorbitant prices at his shows. How this is considered ethical by his fans is a mystery to me.

4) He cancels way too many shows without explanation, or expressions of remorse. Few are rescheduled. This shows us that he basically doesn't respect his fanbase. He thinks that his fans will love him no matter what, and judging by a lot of what I read here, he's right.

I am not a cancel culture person and I don't care for politics, but I do have scruples.
 
Cancel culture is taking a long time to disappear up its own arse like an outraged ouroboros.

Ouroboros-Snake-Eating-Its-Tail-Infinity-Symbol.jpg


Ouroboros, ouroboros
Would you work for me?
I have got to say hello
To any friend

Ouroboros, ouroboros, ouroboros
Would you work for me?
I have got to get through
To some good friend

Well, they have now gone
From me to their unhappy planet
With all the snowflakes
And the cancellers on it

Ouroboros, ouroboros, ouroboros
Would you help me?
Because I still do feel
So horribly lonely

Would you, ouroboros
Would you, ouroboros
Would you help me?
And I just can't find
My place in this woke world
Some have now gone
From my fanbase
With all their carnivore friends
And cancel culture cretins

Oh you can't hear my voice ("hear my voice")
Oh you can't hear my voice ("hear my voice")
They can't bear my voice ("hear my voice"
Hear my voice ("hear my voice")
The tables are turning...
The stampede is rumbling
The worm is turning
"No, I was not pushing that time"
It spells : V.I.V.A. M.O.Z
Well, that was crap.
 
I really love his voice, I really love his lyrics (some of them), but I don't care for him as a person. Here's a few reasons why, not mentioned in the stupid article:

1) Misappropriating James Baldwin's image and using it freely to promote himself. I think this is outrageously gross. I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say that Baldwin, or his estate, would never approve of this. I bet, if he was still alive, Baldwin would tell Moz emphatically , "I am not your negro!"

2) Morrissey's silence on the death of David Bowie was bad enough, but he's used pictures of himself with Bowie (again to promote himself) since David passed. This is really disgusting behavior especially since Bowie previously refused to give Morrissey permission to use his photo on the cover of The Last Of The Famous International Playboys.

3) Morrissey is the only Rockstar I know of that signs other peoples albums and then sells them for
exorbitant prices at his shows. How this is considered ethical by his fans is a mystery to me.

4) He cancels way too many shows without explanation, or expressions of remorse. Few are rescheduled. This shows us that he basically doesn't respect his fanbase. He thinks that his fans will love him no matter what, and judging by a lot of what I read here, he's right.

I am not a cancel culture person and I don't care for politics, but I do have scruples.
Braindead?
 
If you're not part of the "group think" of the left you're automatically "right wing" or "hard right". It's tiring. Diversity of thought and opinion is clearly not allowed on the left. Why must Everyone think alike? People aren't always going to have the same opinion as you, it's fine. Get over it.
 
Find a socialist worker/trade union crank and build an article around their quotes.

Morrissey’s ‘discomfort’ is shared by the majority of British people. It’s hardly hard right.

“he is uncomfortable with the multicultural direction in which British society went.”
It is throughout Europe that they are invading, but it is by the law of cause and effect, you have to analyze and see what mistakes they made so that the invasion is advancing. In my country something similar happens but it is with other people who have other customs, a culture different from ours and those of us who are a little older bothers us, so I understand that Morrissey cannot and does not want to adapt to all that
 
I commented on this journalism a couple of days back when it was written the times or wherever.

How can he write that fans stayed away when it was two sold out shows !?

“Now a successful solo artists” where have you been !?

It’s just lazy and deplorable that someone would write with the intent of just jumping on a band wagon other of journalists and media outlets that just plainly have it in for Morrissey.

And again no mentions of the music and the gigs. I recently attending a live show and have to say, he sounded the best he has and the show was exceptional… but no mention of that. Just another attack. Another lazy, substandard piece of journalism with the aim to denigrate his work and silence him further.
 
As it's on topic for the song 'Notre Dame', a video that has just appeared online about attacks on churches in Britain and government payouts to protect mosques:

 
Reference Bigmouth Strikes Again - check.
Reference The Boy with the Thorn in his Side - check.
Why didn't they go for the triple? No Moz headline is complete without referencing Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now.
How disappointing.

The saddest thing about this list of Morrissey's 'sins' and 'heresies' is that it is published in The Times, not the NME or The Guardian. The woke / EDI virus really has infected every institution out there.

The population of Europe is being transformed before our eyes - but we are told, nothing to see here. Like any good conjuring trick. If you 'notice' the trick and point it out - you're a diversity party-pooper, you're spoiling it for everyone else, you're a 'racist'. 'Racist' now just means 'someone who points out reality'.

Muammar Gadhafi said in 2006: “We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”

Mathematically what he predicted is inevitable on current trends. For Sweden and France, about 100 years away. For the UK, about 150 years. Of course, one reaction is to say, so what? But if that is your reaction, how would you like to live in Saudi Arabia or Iran? I think that's a future for our great-grandchildren more worrying than climate change.

Is it any wonder we are being told that 2 + 2 = 5. Don't believe your eyes. Reality is the enemy. We really are through the looking glass. Beyond truth.

 
Reference Bigmouth Strikes Again - check.
Reference The Boy with the Thorn in his Side - check.
Why didn't they go for the triple? No Moz headline is complete without referencing Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now.
How disappointing.

The saddest thing about this list of Morrissey's 'sins' and 'heresies' is that it is published in The Times, not the NME or The Guardian. The woke / EDI virus really has infected every institution out there.

The population of Europe is being transformed before our eyes - but we are told, nothing to see here. Like any good conjuring trick. If you 'notice' the trick and point it out - you're a diversity party-pooper, you're spoiling it for everyone else, you're a 'racist'. 'Racist' now just means 'someone who points out reality'.

Muammar Gadhafi said in 2006: “We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”

Mathematically what he predicted is inevitable on current trends. For Sweden and France, about 100 years away. For the UK, about 150 years. Of course, one reaction is to say, so what? But if that is your reaction, how would you like to live in Saudi Arabia or Iran? I think that's a future for our great-grandchildren more worrying than climate change.

Is it any wonder we are being told that 2 + 2 = 5. Don't believe your eyes. Reality is the enemy. We really are through the looking glass. Beyond truth.


Another thing that people say is, "Well, things change. It's inevitable." But what we're talking about is the possible death of a culture. Is it okay, for instance, that the Chinese have a policy of flooding Xinjiang with those who are ethnically Han Chinese in order to turn the native Uighur into a minority? When we look at outside cases like this, it becomes harder to shrug and say, "Change is inevitable." Why we say it about our own civilisation when it's a matter of an existential threat, however creeping and gradual, I do not know. But there is some hope. I think people are waking up to what's happening.
 
If you're not part of the "group think" of the left you're automatically "right wing" or "hard right". It's tiring. Diversity of thought and opinion is clearly not allowed on the left. Why must Everyone think alike? People aren't always going to have the same opinion as you, it's fine. Get over it.
Yes and if course we know there is no "group think" on the right. They are all free thinks and the fact that they have the same views on all the issues of the day is just coincidence.
 
You sound like you'v
Reference Bigmouth Strikes Again - check.
Reference The Boy with the Thorn in his Side - check.
Why didn't they go for the triple? No Moz headline is complete without referencing Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now.
How disappointing.

The saddest thing about this list of Morrissey's 'sins' and 'heresies' is that it is published in The Times, not the NME or The Guardian. The woke / EDI virus really has infected every institution out there.

The population of Europe is being transformed before our eyes - but we are told, nothing to see here. Like any good conjuring trick. If you 'notice' the trick and point it out - you're a diversity party-pooper, you're spoiling it for everyone else, you're a 'racist'. 'Racist' now just means 'someone who points out reality'.

Muammar Gadhafi said in 2006: “We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”

Mathematically what he predicted is inevitable on current trends. For Sweden and France, about 100 years away. For the UK, about 150 years. Of course, one reaction is to say, so what? But if that is your reaction, how would you like to live in Saudi Arabia or Iran? I think that's a future for our great-grandchildren more worrying than climate change.

Is it any wonder we are being told that 2 + 2 = 5. Don't believe your eyes. Reality is the enemy. We really are through the looking glass. Beyond truth.

You sound like you've been down the same YouTube rabbit hole as Mozzballs and the rest of the right. Standard.
 
Anyone who considers him "hard right" should stay home. The streets are safer without your low IQs limping around.
 
Exactly my thougts. I like some of the music he likes or films/books he likes, but that's about it.

His opinions on other things like the meat industry, record companies, the legal world or politics are just that to me, his opinions. It doesn't come even close to have an impact on whether or not I like his music. I cannot and will never understand how it could work otherwise?
I think a lot of it comes down to so many people growing up as pampered ego-maniacs whose opinions are so important it rocks their mini-verse to meet anyone who disagrees or doesn't care what they think. Indulgent idiot parents are to blame.
 
I think a lot of it comes down to so many people growing up as pampered ego-maniacs whose opinions are so important it rocks their mini-verse to meet anyone who disagrees or doesn't care what they think.
....like Morrissey himself? Sorry, but this is exactly how he behaves these days.
 

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