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Listen to yourself though.
After the continents London bought up and beat up.
The RB video? I think you've weighed in on the politics threads. It's one thing disagreeing with others' political views, where incidentally I'm usually on the same page as you, but something else again trying to stop them from having any other opinions than of only one slant. That expectation or demand actually matches a number of the criteria for fascism Umberto Eco listed - https://www.openculture.com/2016/11...ist-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
Fascism has also been defined as absence or rejection of nuance.
"Humanising fascists [sic]’, thus, does not imply transforming them into adorable subjects, but intelligible ones. The risk of this task is realising they are similar or close to us, which might be an indigestible and disturbing fact."
That's from an anthropological follow-up of a study of Bolsonaro voters, who bear resemblances to Trump followers and the like, which got a negative reaction from the far right, but of more concern, given the scientific presentation, met a backlash from progressive and academic circles, who wanted the existence of this unpalatable basket of deplorables to be denied. But isn't suppression authoritarianism? We're not going to get away from dabbling in political questions while engaging with Morrissey's oeuvre. Isn't it better to be cautiously interested in these new movements forming and morphing, without that reality having to threatening one's own position?
What is your favourite Irish poem, Malarkey? Here's another by Patrick Kavanagh, called,
Memory Of My Father
Every old man I see
Reminds me of my father
When he had fallen in love with death
One time when sheaves were gathered.
That man I saw in Gardner Street
Stumbled on the kerb was one,
He stared at me half-eyed,
I might have been his son.
And I remember the musician
Faltering over his fiddle
In Bayswater, London,
He too set me the riddle.
Every old man I see
In October-coloured weather
Seems to say to me:
"I was once your father."
Why? St. Patrick was political. How does that feminist saying go again?
It's good of you to care, but still I think it's only fair to acknowledge that Morrissey, like many if not most other artists, has often and knowingly written songs about politics. Beyond that, judgement and timing come into it, of course.
"as far as what artists can do, I think there’s a huge opportunity now to challenge the institutions that we're part of and and investigate where those loyalties lie.
If you have a platform, I think you have a responsibility to use it to speak politically, especially for those people who can’t do it themselves. I’d like to see that, if it feels safe for artists to do so in their respective mediums, in their respective institutions, to make political work and make work that is going to be “controversial” because what else can we do?
Art can feel frivolous. And I think this is a moment when it’s not."
- https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/03...hil-garip-on-censorship-of-pro-palestine-art/
And an interesting cultural-economic-type discussion about how opera is being kept elite in the name of anti-elitism by the UK Arts Council: "the relationship between the state and the arts is complex but the situation we have now is a make-or-break moment. If we fall for the nonsense being fed to us by the Arts Council and their kin, the art form will be lost to the wealthy. If we want the art form to reflect us, and be available to us, the battle should focus on how we demand the brightest and best examples of the art form." - https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/towards-working-class-opera
Here's a lovely if in a way redundant demonstration, using a puzzle-box, of how bees are art-hounds, with cultural sensibilities! It's apparently the first time this level of socially learned problem-solving has ever been observed in a nonhuman animal population - first time for scientists anyway- -https://aeon.co/videos/whats-this-buzz-about-bees-having-culture-inside-a-groundbreaking-experiment
Another Patrick Kavanagh poem for good measure
A Star
Beauty was that
Far vanished flame,
Call it a star
Wanting better name.
And gaze and gaze
Vaguely until
Nothing is left
Save a grey ghost-hill.
Here wait I
On the world's rim
Stretching out hands
To Seraphim.
No - Morrissey is fully aware of what he is doing and saying. What is absolutely clear is that Morrissey just doesn't share your world view that it is 'racist' or 'far right' to be concerned about mass immigration and its impact on social cohesion. Being concerned about mass immigration is simply an opinion. A perfectly valid opinion. You may disagree with that opinion - and that is fine. Being unconcerned about mass immigration and thinking mass immigration is great is also an opinion. Both opinions are perfectly valid. That you fail to grasp this simple fact - and suggest that Morrissey is being duped and used by his nephew - is bizarre.
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No - Morrissey is fully aware of what he is doing and saying. What is absolutely clear is that Morrissey just doesn't share your world view that it is 'racist' or 'far right' to be concerned about mass immigration and its impact on social cohesion. Being concerned about mass immigration is simply an opinion. A perfectly valid opinion. You may disagree with that opinion - and that is fine. Being unconcerned about mass immigration and thinking mass immigration is great is also an opinion. Both opinions are perfectly valid. That you fail to grasp this simple fact - and suggest that Morrissey is being duped and used by his nephew - is bizarre.
Morrissey elaborates on support of For Britain party, says treatment of EDL founder Tommy Robinson is 'shocking'
Morrissey has spoken out to explain his support of the controversial party For Britain, as well as saying that the media treatment of EDL co-founder Tommy Robinson has been "shameful".
A lot of these people also fail to understand that their opinion (or the ideology that they worship at the altar of, rather) isn’t perhaps the universal truth that they believe. And everyone who does not blindly agree with them isn’t necessarily a liberal idiot sheep.
No - Morrissey is fully aware of what he is doing and saying. What is absolutely clear is that Morrissey just doesn't share your world view that it is 'racist' or 'far right' to be concerned about mass immigration and its impact on social cohesion. Being concerned about mass immigration is simply an opinion. A perfectly valid opinion. You may disagree with that opinion - and that is fine. Being unconcerned about mass immigration and thinking mass immigration is great is also an opinion. Both opinions are perfectly valid. That you fail to grasp this simple fact - and suggest that Morrissey is being duped and used by his nephew - is bizarre.
Morrissey elaborates on support of For Britain party, says treatment of EDL founder Tommy Robinson is 'shocking'
Morrissey has spoken out to explain his support of the controversial party For Britain, as well as saying that the media treatment of EDL co-founder Tommy Robinson has been "shameful".
Agreed. But others also fail to understand that their opinion (or the ideology that they worship at the altar of) isn't perhaps the universal truth that they believe. And everyone who does not blindly agree with them isn't necessarily a far right racist.
That's true of any opinion. Whether that opinion is on the left or the right or the beyond left and right.
