Charlie Cheswick
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But you accept that a massive part of the problem has come from the policies of Republican presidents though right? Notably Nixon and Reagan.
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But you accept that a massive part of the problem has come from the policies of Republican presidents though right? Notably Nixon and Reagan.
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vegan.cro spirit #119
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vegan.cro spirit #119
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NO Chezz,Nixon had many policies which seem downright liberal and contrary to conservative principles. He opened diplomatic relations with China, signed the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with the Soviet Union and got them to lay off t'heir support for North Vietnam, fixed prices on food, and endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress.
Chezz, he fixed PRICES ON FOOD FFS, the ulitmate Socialist DREAM. NIXON!!! It was a cluster LOL but it was
Nixon who did it. He inherited the Vietnam war from the Dem "LBJ".
Some of the most racially regressive legislation was promoted and passed by Pres Bubba, welfare refrom and the crime. Chezz, Pres Bubba is a Dem.
Chezz, he fixed PRICES ON FOOD FFS, the ulitmate Socialist DREAM. NIXON!!! It was a cluster LOL but it was
Nixon who did it. He inherited the Vietnam war from the Dem "LBJ".
Some of the most racially regressive legislation was promoted and passed by Pres Bubba, welfare refrom and the crime. Chezz, Pres Bubba is a Dem.
If your goal is not to empower people with responsibility and personal autonomy, progress will not be made.
No matter how you slice it, progressive policies keep people dependent and essentially enslaved.
How can anyone argue with India being a shithole country ffs?
The one in the conversation who had taken a trip there even remarked on how it smelt like shit when he got off the plane.
But Trump is an evil racist neo-Nazi white supremacist... cuz reasons.
Many people who hate Trump, especially the openly alt-left/neo-Marxist/identitarian-types, are disingenuous hypocrites who don't want prosperity and equality but instead want to limit people's ability to succeed so that everyone is equally unsuccessful via equity and the institutional discrimination that comes with it.
Charlie Cheswick
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That has nothing to do with what I asked. Is the mass incarceration of masses of the black population thanks to policies most championed by Nixon and Reagan more responsible for that plight than mayors? The policy which has deprived massive parts of the population the opportunity of employment, stripped children of their fathers and denied masses of the right to vote? Plus strangely being a policy which because of the all of the last things promotes crime as people have to have money to survive, despite it all.
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vegan.cro spirit #119
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Some chick I used to know, saved up for many years to go to the land of the gurus. She walked off the plane, the stench hit her
and she was on a plane back the next day. LOL
Tell the Chezz-him and
claim not to read my posts anymore-
that the warehousing of black inmates was the work of President
Bubba and is crime bil...he can google to confirm.
Just of bunch of pseudos who feel superior from people who work and want to live off
the govt, be it the dole, 'compassionate' lol assistance or govt 'jobs' in academia or
the social sciences, which are a drain on the country and produce nothing. Like the
one commie here wrote 'political jobs'.
What about President Clinton's policies? I think you are scapegoating, especially with Reagan. Attitudes toward crime and rehabilitation have changed in general over the course of the last few decades.
Crime can be dealt with in better ways than it was in the past, but it's strange to me that you talk about crime as a main focus considering that it is a symptom of community problems on a local level in many cases.
If you're asking for causal possibilities, consider:
Strengthen the family and reduce crime.
Increase personal responsibility and reduce crime.
Increase employment and reduce crime.
Conversely:
Weaken the family and increase crime.
Decrease personal responsibility and increase crime.
Decrease employment and increase crime.
I could go on.
The Democratic Party has it wrong policy-wise. LBJ wanted to make blacks dependent on the government, and largely he succeeded. More than anything, we see how these Democrat policies, which are arguably rooted in overt white supremacy, served to decimate the black family and black communities to break them apart and make them worse of in measurable terms than they were even in the 1950s, which is shocking but true.
This is without even mentioning the genocidal effects of Planned Parenthood.
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Charlie Cheswick
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Bias to what? I'm not even a Republican. You're not making any sense going on about crime and ignoring the context and the bigger picture.
evennow
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You and Derek are having quite the discussion. It makes for very interesting reading, and I don't want to step on toes, but this is the real point of it all. The need for money. I believe the real crisis to be averted is a fiscal and not a social one. I did some research and the average American could expect to live into their 40s in the 1900s and it is projected that by 2050 we will be living into our 80s.
This is a concern and has been for a while as our politicians continue to kick the can forward with temporary patches to keep the damn from bursting. Why is this important? Because governmental benefits were never designed to be placed under the strain they are experiencing today and this will only continue to increase. Technology has been written about here as having an extreme impact on social issues, but it has also played a role in adding to the fiscal crisis we all face today.
Of course, we all want babies to survive and for the elderly to live comfortably for as long as possible pain free, but this comes at a cost. Alzheimer's was not an issue just a few decades ago as most people never lived long enough to suffer from this terrible disease. My grandmother did and she ended the last ten years of her life as a ward of the state. My dad had a severe stroke and now is able to collect from Medicare to cover most of his health related expenses. And these are "just" examples of the use of government funding. God knows what the additional cost is from the abuse of the system. Modern medicine is helping to keep more people living and living longer than the system can handle.
Given this it would be reasonable to increase the retirement age for Social Security benefits, and most Americans agree this is a serious problem, but when it comes down to brass tax no one is willing to budge an inch on their benefits. Social issues are important, but when the money runs out it won't matter what race, color or religion you are because it will be time for everyone to run to the hills!
Charlie Cheswick
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You've obviously got something to get off yer chest Derek and I'll leave you to it. Although it might be worth considering that you're only looking at half of the bigger picture because you've grabbed hold of some conspiracy theory and decided to run with it. Good luck, take a step back and think it all through.
caramel sea salt
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Please elaborate.
Personal responsibility is a conspiracy theory? Man oh man.
The amount of black families with no fathers is a killer.
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vegan.cro spirit #888
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I know it, you are over at the UK you are not even a Republican
None of them are capable of making sense.
(heads up, the GD has done some 'research on Alzheimer', and about
fiscal expectancy.....
.....)
caramel sea salt
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I see. What is President Trump doing to (successfully) tackle this “issue” of the black family? Please provide examples.
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vegan.cro spirit #888
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The unemployment rate is at 3.9!!!!
Maybe Trump should tweak the UK economy help it out.
Help find work for those on the dole!
bhops
Last of the famous international screw ups.
For those wondering about the dissolution of the black family structure here are two very good videos from great conservative thinkers. I've posted the whole Larry Elder interview before and I urge anyone who hasn't seen it to watch the whole 8 minutes. Larry gets on to the problem of alack of fathers in the black community at the 6 minute mark and highlights the issues with the welfare state specifically the 'war on poverty' implemented by Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's.
Now to be fair subsequent administrations haven't helped, specifically reagan's 'war on drugs' which has been a disaster and then Clinton's 1994 crime bill. I link a Guardian article of all things, but there aton of articles out there that are very critical of ir. Once again this act took many black fathers out of the family unit.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-crime-bill-hillary-black-lives-thomas-frank
Lastly Thomas Sowell who may just about be my favourite conservative backs up Larry Elders proposition about the LBJ's 'war on poverty' with some more fascinating statistics.
Now to be fair subsequent administrations haven't helped, specifically reagan's 'war on drugs' which has been a disaster and then Clinton's 1994 crime bill. I link a Guardian article of all things, but there aton of articles out there that are very critical of ir. Once again this act took many black fathers out of the family unit.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-crime-bill-hillary-black-lives-thomas-frank
Lastly Thomas Sowell who may just about be my favourite conservative backs up Larry Elders proposition about the LBJ's 'war on poverty' with some more fascinating statistics.
