malvachat
My eyes are now open
Not unless you get to the bar first.
There will be a hell of a rush on.
@ Anti-Thatcherites
- Thread starter j funk
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There will be a hell of a rush on.
Jukebox Jury
Retired
......I'm sure the miners (and the whole pit villagers) who lost their career - along with the ship builders, steel workers and other businesses that relied on those industries being open are nodding in agreement that in order for you to not work down a mine, the whole f***ing industry was closed down
Probably the most daft post I've ever read on solo......
Jukebox Jury
she was also pretty liberal with the sugar in her tea...
Jukebox Jury
Retired
but not with the milk for school kids:
Jukebox Jury
ah yes, the evil milk snatcher!
but, really, (and it pains me to say) I think she did us all a favour.
that milk was hideous. full fat and (by the time we drank it in morning break) luke warm - yuck!
Emotional Guide Dog
Chairman Of The Bored
......I'm sure the miners (and the whole pit villagers) who lost their career - along with the ship builders, steel workers and other businesses that relied on those industries being open are nodding in agreement that in order for you to not work down a mine, the whole f***ing industry was closed down
Probably the most daft post I've ever read on solo......
Jukebox Jury
I grew up in a pit village. My Dad was a miner. People recovered. Piss off back to your Labour dreamland. I think hundreds of thousands of people who grew up in the Thatcher era would thank her for them not having to work down a shitty dirty hole for the best years of their life. If they'd stayed open, I'd be there, my Dad would probably still be there, only he'd be half dead from a lifetime of fumes & dust. My uncle who never smoked a cig in his life died from lung cancer thanks to the mines.
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moztoon
Vauxhall Viva member
Looking back I dont think people can appreciate how bad it was in 1979 and the strikes were out of hand with a totally inept Callaghan as Labour PM ,
Generally people were pissed off hence they voted in someone with a strong message of change ie Thatcher.
Under those Governments some good came about but some damaging social policys evolved .
Miners ahh salt of the earth la de dah , f*** off they were no working class heroes they were mostly ( not all ) greedy bastards who believed in a totally deluded liar Scargill , and his idea of the unions continuing to dictate policy to Government , they followed him to oblivian
As a punk in the original movement we were living under a Labour Government not the Thatcher one as people convieniently forget ,(and punk was largely finished by the time she was voted in 1979) and they were f***ing useless and self serving , about the same as this bunch of tossers we currently have .
The BBC has always been anti thatcher with their little rebellious university educated socialists , they have pushed the hatred angle .
In 1979 I went to work in Germany on building sites due to the shit Labour Government there was No Work in Britain at that time .
All Politicians Lie , All Union Leaders Lie , All Local Government Lie
Dont wait for Politicians to give you your life take the f***er yourself
Ask yourselves this is Thatcher really worse than Blair , Brown ( think of the wars the lies ) Kinnock ( who was so f***ing useless he became a rich MEP even though he wanted to withdraw from the EU in the manifesto and scargills pal ) Foot , Major , Callaghan
PS the last shipyards on Tyneside were closed under this current Government because they refused to give an order to build Royal Navy ships , the iconic cranes of the Tyne have been dismantled and sold under this utter pile of shit that pretends to Govern us ( I thought Labour looked after the working man and woman )
Im Sick To Death Of Labour And Tory , they gave me f*** all I took iy for my self
Im back off to bed to sleep off the night before , me head hurts
Generally people were pissed off hence they voted in someone with a strong message of change ie Thatcher.
Under those Governments some good came about but some damaging social policys evolved .
Miners ahh salt of the earth la de dah , f*** off they were no working class heroes they were mostly ( not all ) greedy bastards who believed in a totally deluded liar Scargill , and his idea of the unions continuing to dictate policy to Government , they followed him to oblivian
As a punk in the original movement we were living under a Labour Government not the Thatcher one as people convieniently forget ,(and punk was largely finished by the time she was voted in 1979) and they were f***ing useless and self serving , about the same as this bunch of tossers we currently have .
The BBC has always been anti thatcher with their little rebellious university educated socialists , they have pushed the hatred angle .
In 1979 I went to work in Germany on building sites due to the shit Labour Government there was No Work in Britain at that time .
All Politicians Lie , All Union Leaders Lie , All Local Government Lie
Dont wait for Politicians to give you your life take the f***er yourself
Ask yourselves this is Thatcher really worse than Blair , Brown ( think of the wars the lies ) Kinnock ( who was so f***ing useless he became a rich MEP even though he wanted to withdraw from the EU in the manifesto and scargills pal ) Foot , Major , Callaghan
PS the last shipyards on Tyneside were closed under this current Government because they refused to give an order to build Royal Navy ships , the iconic cranes of the Tyne have been dismantled and sold under this utter pile of shit that pretends to Govern us ( I thought Labour looked after the working man and woman )
Im Sick To Death Of Labour And Tory , they gave me f*** all I took iy for my self
Im back off to bed to sleep off the night before , me head hurts
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MunchyBrain
Born Against
I agree that all politicians are as bad as each other. I don't think Thatcher was worse than Blair. But, for a more interesting debate, you can look at WHY Blair was how he was. It's because of Thatcher. Blair was a Tory, but Thatcher shifted the entire of UK politics to the right, because of her economic policies. So he could pass as Labour. Thatcher said she approved of him. There is no viable left-wing party in the UK anymore, which is why the BNP are doing well. If you look at their policies, aside from the racism, they're actually quite left-wing. And this is something that the real left are completely failing to address.
At the end of the day, to quote Proudhon, "Whoever lays his hand on me to govern me is a usurper and tyrant, and I declare him my enemy."
As for the unions, well, the concept of unions is extremely powerful, but people have to be in it for the right reasons, i.e. not just more money. But corporate unions like Unison don't serve the workers at all. But if more people joined unions like the IWW it could make lots of peoples lives significantly better.
Emotional Guide Dog
Chairman Of The Bored
Good grief! I've agreed with MunchyBrain twice in a week.
Good work fella/chick! (sorry I'm too lazy to look at whether you're a boy or a girl)
Good work fella/chick! (sorry I'm too lazy to look at whether you're a boy or a girl)
Emotional Guide Dog
Chairman Of The Bored
j funk
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Jukebox Jury
Retired
Brel
Guttersnipe
My wife grew up the child of an unemployed steel worker with a wife and three kids to feed. We have champagne 'on ice' for the day that the bitch dies. I know many people who will be popping the corks when she goes. Do you honestly think she closed the mines as part of some Tory Health drive? She did it to tear up working class communties and to settle an old score with the NUM for bringing down the last Tory Government in 1974.
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We've had a bottle of champaign in the fridge for years for no real reason... you've just given me a reason
I'm going to put a label on it now "Do not open until 'she' dies"My dad's family were all miners at Warsop Main Colliery in Nottinghamshire http://www.warsopvale.org/history2.htm During the '84 strike one uncle stayed out, the other crossed the picket line. They've barely spoken since even though they still both live in the same village. They both came to my gran's funeral but the scab wasn't invited to my dad's.
Thatcher's motives were not economic - they were purely political - designed only to destroy unions across the country. She stockpiled coal the year before the strike and used the might of the state - police, army, press... to crush the NUM and destroy thousands of lives and hundreds of communities across the country.
Cheers
Dave
Brel
Guttersnipe
Last year we paid off our mortgage. I posted in a Finance Forum that we would be having champagne, but that I had to replace it quick as it was the stuff I had put aside for the day that woman dies. After I posted I expected to be in for a tirade of abuse - how wrong. It appears that fridges around the country have a bottle in them awaiting the womans demise. Hurry up!!
Emotional Guide Dog
Chairman Of The Bored
Then I sincerely apologise. I was having a similar argument with someone on a different forum the other day, he said he was a member of the Lib Dems. So I kept arguing with him.
Emotional Guide Dog
Chairman Of The Bored
By the way, all this talk of dancing on Thatcher's grave, is no-one going to spare some of their dancing shoes for John Major?
Thatcher may have closed the pits but at least she kept building trains. In 1993, British Rail Engineering pretty much closed from top to bottom. I'm not against rail privatisation as an idea, but the way the Tories did it & Labour continue to do it (making even bigger mistakes than the Tories did with it) is a total shambles.
Thatcher may have closed the pits but at least she kept building trains. In 1993, British Rail Engineering pretty much closed from top to bottom. I'm not against rail privatisation as an idea, but the way the Tories did it & Labour continue to do it (making even bigger mistakes than the Tories did with it) is a total shambles.
I thought we'd started to re-nationalise the rail network this week...
Major is a funny one. Given that the thread started by talking about inequality, if you look back at the policies and things like tax laws then Major was actually the most redistributive PM we've had for a long time - a big factor was being forced to repeal the Poll Tax, his majority being so low and public opinion being such that he couldn't raise taxes on the poor - even if he'd wanted to.
I doubt though that his premiership will be viewed as a golden era of equality.
Dave
Emotional Guide Dog
Chairman Of The Bored
I thought we'd started to re-nationalise the rail network this week...
Dave
Don't get me started on the railways. We'll be here all night & you'll all disagree with me.
I liked Major (but then again, I am a Tory apparently) but jobs went under him too. At least when he won a leadership election, he had the good grace to hold a general election. It was two years but still less than Brown has been PM.
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