It would end but one contention around the issue of animal welfare. The rest of the arguments would be alive and kicking (unlike the poor creatures). I, personally, dislike the placation and deceit that surrounds the industrialisation of animal existence—so your proposition wouldn’t satisfy me. There is an abattoir in Greater Manchester called ‘Tulip Foods’: it apparently advocates a painless and joyous animal death. And I want the place closed down, forever; I feel everyone ought to.All living beings are destined for death and suffering.
If there was a 100% painless way to kill in the abattoir, and the end of cramped or cruel conditions, would that end the argument?
Is it better for those animals to never exist in the first place, or die by 'natural causes' (torn apart by larger animal, freeze, infected etc), than to be farmed and die in a painless abbatoir?It would end but one contention around the issue of animal welfare. The rest of the arguments would be alive and kicking (unlike the poor creatures). I, personally, dislike the placation and deceit that surrounds the industrialisation of animal existence—so your proposition wouldn’t satisfy me. There is an abattoir in Greater Manchester called ‘Tulip Foods’: it apparently advocates a painless and joyous animal death. And I want the place closed down, forever; I feel everyone ought to.
To bring animals which have never existed into the equation is to entertain metaphysical thoughts. Personally, I find the proposition irrelevant. Nevertheless, in some sense I suppose that means yes, it would be better for those animals to never exist. And yes, I’d be happier if animals died by natural causes though I accept my position relates less to the animals and more to how I feel the human race should represent itself.Is it better for those animals to never exist in the first place, or die by 'natural causes' (torn apart by larger animal, freeze, infected etc), than to be farmed and die in a painless abbatoir?
I think there is a big difference between animals that are wild and hunted to supply food to a family and those that are bred, raised and slaughtered in an industrialized setting. A very small percentage of food comes from the first while the overwhelming majority from the second. It’s hard to make the case that farmed animals have much quality at life at all.Is it better for those animals to never exist in the first place, or die by 'natural causes' (torn apart by larger animal, freeze, infected etc), than to be farmed and die in a painless abbatoir?
How do they kill in a painless abbatoir?Is it better for those animals to never exist in the first place, or die by 'natural causes' (torn apart by larger animal, freeze, infected etc), than to be farmed and die in a painless abbatoir?
They should allow cameras in to broadcast these joyous deaths and show it on TV like the documentary morrissey saw. I think a second documentary is well overdue.It would end but one contention around the issue of animal welfare. The rest of the arguments would be alive and kicking (unlike the poor creatures). I, personally, dislike the placation and deceit that surrounds the industrialisation of animal existence—so your proposition wouldn’t satisfy me. There is an abattoir in Greater Manchester called ‘Tulip Foods’: it apparently advocates a painless and joyous animal death. And I want the place closed down, forever; I feel everyone ought to.
Your knowledge on the herd is non existant.I think there is a big difference between animals that are wild and hunted to supply food to a family and those that are bred, raised and slaughtered in an industrialized setting. A very small percentage of food comes from the first while the overwhelming majority from the second. It’s hard to make the case that farmed animals have much quality at life at all.
I mostly do think it would be better for them to have never have existed. They exist for that one purpose alone, to supply food & materials. And then I start to think about people born into overwhelming poverty with a low quality of life. Do I feel the same for them? And I guess I don’t. Because there is always hope that one may find a way to escape from or improve their conditions. I have virtually no hope for farmed animals that they may escape and find happiness and a better quality of life. (And yes, I’ve seen footage of escapees. Those are the exception and regularly caught and right back where they started.)
These places offer a ‘stunning’ story and headline every second. So one is left to assume that television executives and the press conspire with the meat industry, to maintain the deathly media silence.They should allow cameras in to broadcast these joyous deaths and show it on TV like the documentary morrissey saw. I think a second documentary is well overdue.
As long as people are not living in the wild like animals then there is no need to eat other animals.
I like to believe that we are advanced enough to choose and create healthier alternatives not only for us but for the planet also.
It’s all very simple.
I agree, the industry around the use of animals is everywhere. TV advertising is made up of a lot of food ads containing animals, then you have shoes,clothing, and then dairy. Animal use is tied into everything, even the UK money now has animal body fluids in it.These places offer a ‘stunning’ story and headline every second. So one is left to assume that television executives and the press conspire with the meat industry, to maintain the deathly media silence.