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First - a note - Kewpie - please don't merge this, I have a new question!

I've just been watching this video again. I've looked in the archives here, and there's no real answer. There's no way that that is Morrissey's or any British family in the video, so can anyone shed any light on the family, who are quite evidently American. Please?

I suppose I'm trying to find a reason why the footage was chosen...



Thanks,

Peter
 
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Hi Peter,

I have never believed this to be real footage of anyone's family. It looks like actors pretending to be a family shot in black and white. If you look at it, he whole thing is very staged and unnatural. Just my humble opinion... Laura :)
 
I can't find the link of earlier post, someone posted the family in the video is Richardson gangs if I remember correctly.

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Please read sprinheeledjim's post #13 in here. ;)


Hmmm, the director Charles Wittenmeiner might have used some random archive footages or emplpyed actors to shoot home movies for the video?
 
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i'm not sure it looks quite staged. American, they probably are. To me, they more seem like clips from home videos after portions of the family become aware the camera is facing them. It's hard to tell without audio, but I would assume they would be from the midwest?
 
I became curious about this too, and decided to simply ask Charles Wittenmeier. A search and an indirect inquiry, and I had an email address.

I put the specific question to him and also asked for any other thoughts that he had about the making of the video. I've just received a short reply from him in which he didn't give (or deny) me permission to quote him online, so I'll paraphrase: it's genuine archival footage of his own father's family.

I don't know whether one would take that to mean that the director, as a child, is himself in it. More likely it could mean that his father, as a child, is in it. And most likely the family is American, as Wittenmeier, who briefly attended USC and began his career under Roger Corman, seems to be.

This article, from SHOOT Online, is a pretty detailed bio of the director:

October 12, 2001, Alex Lesman --- Charles Wittenmeier has a pet peeve. "I always hate when somebody says, 'I saw a movie and the special effects were great.' They weren't that special if they were that noticeable," states Wittenmeier, who directs spots out of bicoastal/international Propa-ganda Films. In his view, the same concept applies to commercials: "Ideally, special effects shouldn't stand out—they should be as seamless as possible."

In an age of ever-more-elaborate digital creations, Wittenmeier's view may be unfashionable. But over the past dozen years his aesthetic has guided the production of some highly praised spots. The latest example of Wittenmeier's work to hit the airwaves is a campaign for Lucky Brand jeans via Odiorne Wilde Narraway+Partners (OWN+P), San Francisco, which features a crude shamrock puppet named Mr. Happy Go Lucky—"Hap" for short—in a series of retro ads that hark back to the early days of television.

Wittenmeier singles out the Lucky Brand campaign as his most refreshing experience recently. He says that the client allowed a lot of freedom—in fact, when OWN+P pitched the idea, the people at Lucky Brand told the agency to be even bolder. "[Lucky Brand] picked the right agency," Wittenmeier remarks. "It was really a nice marriage."

According to Wittenmeier, the campaign's backstory is that it dates to 1948 and was "found in some vault." The spots are shot in black-and-white and feature jingles that are "right to the era"—though the spokespuppet is quite a bit more "on edge" than authenticity demands, tending to burst into bleep-filled tirades.

Not surprisingly, the ads incorporate visual effects, which were done by Savage Industry, San Francisco, that help create a late-'40s look, but don't jump out at viewers. "I respect commercials that have good special effects that help drive a story," Wittenmeier relates.

He notes that it is difficult to rely on the latest visual effects these days, because progress in the field is so quick. It's hard to be impressed by "the latest thing" even two months after it airs, he points out, so ads that try to be cutting-edge don't have much shelf life.

Even so, the director states, "I love to work with the best people when I work in special effects." As an example he cites noted special effects creator Stan Winston of Stan Winston Studios, Van Nuys, Calif., who has worked on such feature films as Pearl Harbor, The Sixth Sense and Jurassic Park, and who created the effects in "Eagle Eye Exam," a Wittenmeier-helmed ad for Jeep via PentaMark, Southfield, Mich., in which a bald eagle gets its eyes checked after seeing the new Jeep Liberty SUV.

B-School
Not a film school graduate, Wittenmeier says he learned the trade by doing it. He admits that he went to the University of Southern California, Los Angeles, "for ten minutes," but for his film education he turned to another institution: Roger Corman, the B-director with whom many noted helmers—like Francis Ford Coppola and Martin Scorsese—have apprenticed. Wittenmeier cut his teeth on low-budget films that were, in his words, "the kind of movies where Erik Estrada is the star."

He built a commercial reel, and in '89 he signed with now defunct Harmony Pictures, first as part of a directing team—Bliss—before going solo. After more than six years with Harmony, he shifted his roost to A Band Apart, Los Angeles, and moved over to Propaganda in early '99.

Despite his success, Wittenmeier says he still appreciates low-budget productions (especially since budgets aren't what they used to be), as long as the methods "work in the realm of the story." He also hasn't lost his taste for feature work: He's currently developing a screenplay for what he describes as "a comedic tragedy."

Looking to the future, Wittenmeier is intrigued by the possibilities inherent in the Internet, but cautious about taking advantage of them. He has yet to explore new media spot work, but reports that he is spending his free time trying to develop what he calls an "underground TV station," so that when streaming media becomes a reality he'll have a library of good, inexpensive, new programming ready. "Quality may become king when there are a million options."

The major obstacle now, he says, is the time movies take to download from the Internet—a problem he parodied in a Canadian campaign for Rogers via MacLaren McCann, Toronto. In two spots, "Paramedics" and "ER," people have to be rushed to the hospital after suffering a sort of living rigor mortis while waiting for video to download.

But when consumers can easily download whatever they want, whenever they want, says Wittenmeier, it will mean dramatic changes for the entire entertainment industry. "As the networks start to dismantle, niche programming is going to be where it's at," he predicts, noting that it won't be easy to grab the viewers' attention then. "It will be harder to advertise because people don't want to see advertisements when they look for what they want to look for.

"Maybe there won't be commercials," he continues, but instead advertising integrated into the programming. The prospect of hidden, yet pervasive, advertising disturbs Wittenmeier somewhat. "It will be a challenge," he says, "to do it with integrity."
 
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I became curious about this too, and decided to simply ask Charles Wittenmeier. A search and an indirect inquiry, and I had an email address.

I put the specific question to him and also asked for any other thoughts that he had about the making of the video. I've just received a short reply from him in which he didn't give (or deny) me permission to quote him online, so I'll paraphrase: it's genuine archival footage of his own father's family.

I don't know whether one would take that to mean that the director, as a child, is himself in it. More likely it means his father, as a child, is in it. And most likely the family is American, as Wittenmeier, who briefly attended USC and began his career under Roger Corman, seems to be.

Thanks very much for that, most interesting. A bit more digging, and a list of videos appears here. Closed Down Mill is a Bill Morrissey song, but what's that at the start of the list, specifically here? A video for Late Night Maudlin Street that has been aired?

Peter
 
Thanks very much for that, most interesting. A bit more digging, and a list of videos appears here. Closed Down Mill is a Bill Morrissey song, but what's that at the start of the list, specifically here? A video for Late Night Maudlin Street that has been aired?

Peter

:eek: What the hell...? :confused:
 
As usual - Stephane has the answer...

""Late Night Maudlin Street"
Even though this is very nicely done, using footage from John Schlesinger's movie "Billy Liar", it isn't an official video. It was made by Sarah Tuft, a short-movie producer, and a fan of Morrissey's music. She also did a video for "Will Never Marry", which has not really surfaced like this one did. Promo copies were produced by Vanderquest who usually distribute promo videos for labels, which does give this the appearance of an official item. "

Any idea where we can see it, Stephane?


Peter
 
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