ZOOM FROM GLOOM LASCIATE OGNI SPERANZA! Nov 18, 2022 #21 BrokenFrame said: Maybe nothing happens next....means he prays for something and gets nothing. Click to expand... Yes, that makes sense also. But then what do you make of the lines that come right before it and after? Does it still fit?
BrokenFrame said: Maybe nothing happens next....means he prays for something and gets nothing. Click to expand... Yes, that makes sense also. But then what do you make of the lines that come right before it and after? Does it still fit?
B BrokenFrame Well-Known Member Nov 18, 2022 #22 The song reminds me of "I have forgiven jesus" if anything
B BrokenFrame Well-Known Member Nov 19, 2022 #23 Ketamine Sun said: Yes, that makes sense also. But then what do you make of the lines that come right before it and after? Does it still fit? Click to expand... Not sure. Protest about not having his prays answered....death...but I might be trying too hard to make it fit.
Ketamine Sun said: Yes, that makes sense also. But then what do you make of the lines that come right before it and after? Does it still fit? Click to expand... Not sure. Protest about not having his prays answered....death...but I might be trying too hard to make it fit.
ZOOM FROM GLOOM LASCIATE OGNI SPERANZA! Nov 19, 2022 #24 Young And Alive said: I'm not sure Morrissey would consider himself a Catholic. Raised as one, yes. But I don't think he has any belief in organised religion anymore, if he ever did. Click to expand... Yes, I thought as much, in regards to organized religion. But he still seems to believe in a jesus figure.
Young And Alive said: I'm not sure Morrissey would consider himself a Catholic. Raised as one, yes. But I don't think he has any belief in organised religion anymore, if he ever did. Click to expand... Yes, I thought as much, in regards to organized religion. But he still seems to believe in a jesus figure.
B BrokenFrame Well-Known Member Nov 19, 2022 #25 Ketamine Sun said: Yes, I thought as much, in regards to organized religion. But he still seems to believe in a jesus figure. Click to expand... Unless Jesus is being used as a metaphor.
Ketamine Sun said: Yes, I thought as much, in regards to organized religion. But he still seems to believe in a jesus figure. Click to expand... Unless Jesus is being used as a metaphor.
smiler Junior Member Nov 19, 2022 #26 Ketamine Sun said: Yes this is what I thought at first. But for a Catholic to say that there is no heaven, isn’t that a very atheistic statement to make ? It’s very contrary, to believe in a jesus figure, then claim that there is no heaven. Yes, thought as much, makes sense, just trying to get other’s takes on it. Click to expand... He is very contrary, he's praying to a god that he doesn't believe in. It's often what atheists find themselves doing when placed under pressure.
Ketamine Sun said: Yes this is what I thought at first. But for a Catholic to say that there is no heaven, isn’t that a very atheistic statement to make ? It’s very contrary, to believe in a jesus figure, then claim that there is no heaven. Yes, thought as much, makes sense, just trying to get other’s takes on it. Click to expand... He is very contrary, he's praying to a god that he doesn't believe in. It's often what atheists find themselves doing when placed under pressure.
ZOOM FROM GLOOM LASCIATE OGNI SPERANZA! Nov 19, 2022 #27 BrokenFrame said: Not sure. Protest about not having his prays answered....death...but I might be trying too hard to make it fit. Click to expand... As usual, maybe it’s sometimes best not to dissect a song too much, but this is a fan site. The song’s a beauty, regardless. BrokenFrame said: Unless Jesus is being used as a metaphor. Click to expand... Yes possibly. Did he use it before November in song?
BrokenFrame said: Not sure. Protest about not having his prays answered....death...but I might be trying too hard to make it fit. Click to expand... As usual, maybe it’s sometimes best not to dissect a song too much, but this is a fan site. The song’s a beauty, regardless. BrokenFrame said: Unless Jesus is being used as a metaphor. Click to expand... Yes possibly. Did he use it before November in song?
B BrokenFrame Well-Known Member Nov 19, 2022 #28 Ketamine Sun said: As usual, maybe it’s sometimes best not to dissect a song too much, but this is a fan site. The song’s a beauty, regardless. Yes possibly. Did he use it before Yes, I Am Blind in song? Click to expand... Jesus could just represent religion and it's teachings. I think he might be bitter about that.
Ketamine Sun said: As usual, maybe it’s sometimes best not to dissect a song too much, but this is a fan site. The song’s a beauty, regardless. Yes possibly. Did he use it before Yes, I Am Blind in song? Click to expand... Jesus could just represent religion and it's teachings. I think he might be bitter about that.
Dirk Blaggard Well-Known Member Nov 19, 2022 #29 we should all do a "Release the Bonfire" petition to Capital records. Surely we can get a few thousand on social media?
we should all do a "Release the Bonfire" petition to Capital records. Surely we can get a few thousand on social media?
Dirk Blaggard Well-Known Member Nov 19, 2022 #30 maybe send M the petition "we love ya, now release the beast"
Compadre Active Member Nov 20, 2022 #31 I was so moved by this song last night at the Castro, with the backdrop, and enjoyed reading the comments here about its meaning I agree that his mom's death must have been an inspiration for the song.
I was so moved by this song last night at the Castro, with the backdrop, and enjoyed reading the comments here about its meaning I agree that his mom's death must have been an inspiration for the song.
theprivilegeismine Lucidity Is the Wound Closest To the Sun Nov 21, 2022 #32 The best art materialises when we are at our lowest and most tortured. It seems to invariably be that way. Great art tends to come from great suffering. I think that is most definitely the case here. His mother's passing being the primary concern. Last edited: Nov 21, 2022
The best art materialises when we are at our lowest and most tortured. It seems to invariably be that way. Great art tends to come from great suffering. I think that is most definitely the case here. His mother's passing being the primary concern.