Why Morrissey is right on immigration!

sparacus

Member
All of this fuss about the NME article is the real scandal, not anything that Morrissey has said. Moz is simply articulating the truth. Mass immigration is ruining the UK - the population is set to double in 60 years if nothing is done. Immigrants from the new EU states, especially Poland, are keeping wages low, taking jobs from British workers and causing a shortage of housing. New Labour's answer is to concrete over the entire countryside with ugly housing estates, thus destroying our environment in the name of political correctness.

Keep going Moz!
 

Young And Alive

Senior Member
There's nothing remotely racist about wanting a limit on immigration.

Considering Morrissey's parents are Irish immigrants it's blatantly obvious that he isn't some kind of ultra-Brit white-power racist.

Many Asian immigrants who have come here and created businesses have even said that mass immigration is destroying this country.

I would be all for immigration if the UK required it, but at present it does not.
 

Samiy

Junior Member
I think we should do what i think they do in america and australia, you have to actually have some purpose be able to do a job. I have nothing against ethnic grouping. Yet again having a pop against morrissey because everything to an extent in a lot of genres is so very f***in smash hits
 

Musings

Ubermember
I think we should do what i think they do in america and australia, you have to actually have some purpose be able to do a job. I have nothing against ethnic grouping. Yet again having a pop against morrissey because everything to an extent in a lot of genres is so very f***in smash hits

I beg your pardon

(HIM, you around? :D)
 

Samiy

Junior Member
woops what i meant to say was if you couldnt do a half decent working job then you shouldnt nessesarily be aloud in.

RANT RANT
 

dazzak

New Member
I love how some Moz apologists will actually go as far as endorsing and regurgitating mindless, ill-informed, biased xenophobia.
 

2-J

Member
"Xenophobia is a fear or contempt of foreigners or strangers and people" - Wikipedia.

Morrissey loves plenty of other cultures and countries.

He's just frightened of another culture disappearing, that's all.

There's nothing in his comments that can be construed as xenophobia.
 

Jukebox Jury

Retired
All of this fuss about the NME article is the real scandal, not anything that Morrissey has said. Moz is simply articulating the truth. Mass immigration is ruining the UK - the population is set to double in 60 years if nothing is done. Immigrants from the new EU states, especially Poland, are keeping wages low, taking jobs from British workers and causing a shortage of housing. New Labour's answer is to concrete over the entire countryside with ugly housing estates, thus destroying our environment in the name of political correctness.

Keep going Moz!

Do you listen to John Gaunt each day on Talk Sport (10am - 1pm)? You sound like a regular contributor (usually London taxi drivers)

No one says anything about thousands of Brits now living in Spain, shafting the local Spanish culture, reading the Sun everyday and watching Sky Sports whilst saying 'Landan ain't Landan anymore, to many bladdy foreigners init'.

The British Empire has done more to mess around with other nations cultures than any other over the past 400-200 years, so we are getting a taste of our own medicine and it dosn't taste nice does it? We reap what we sow.

Jukebox Jury
 

vivabob

Ordinary Boy
Do you listen to John Gaunt each day on Talk Sport (10am - 1pm)? You sound like a regular contributor (usually London taxi drivers)

No one says anything about thousands of Brits now living in Spain, shafting the local Spanish culture, reading the Sun everyday and watching Sky Sports whilst saying 'Landan ain't Landan anymore, to many bladdy foreigners init'.

The British Empire has done more to mess around with other nations cultures than any other over the past 400-200 years, so we are getting a taste of our own medicine and it dosn't taste nice does it? We reap what we sow.

Jukebox Jury

Fair point
 

sparacus

Member
Do you listen to John Gaunt each day on Talk Sport (10am - 1pm)? You sound like a regular contributor (usually London taxi drivers)

I have never listened to this person. I have however heard of John of Gaunt, son of Edward III.

No one says anything about thousands of Brits now living in Spain, shafting the local Spanish culture, reading the Sun everyday and watching Sky Sports whilst saying 'Landan ain't Landan anymore, to many bladdy foreigners init'.

Misleading comment. Just because a few British people choose to live in Spain to avoid increased crime and other UK problems does not mean that my points about the effects of uncontrolled immigration are invalid.

The British Empire has done more to mess around with other nations cultures than any other over the past 400-200 years, so we are getting a taste of our own medicine and it dosn't taste nice does it? We reap what we sow.

Jukebox Jury

Irrelevent point. This thread is not about the merits or lack of merits of the British Empire. It is about the negative effects of mass immigration into Britain. East Europeans are flowing in uncontrolled and causing massive problems such as the housing crisis and over-development.
 

fredhenson

New Member
immigration has enriched the British culture and contributed to our economy and health service. Perhaps if we stopped waging war and exploiting the worlds poorest countries then they wouldn't want to leave their sunny homes for drizzly Britain.
I hope i don't undermine my argument by saying SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY ANSWER!!!
 

Hellie

Lost
woops what i meant to say was if you couldnt do a half decent working job then you shouldnt nessesarily be aloud in.

RANT RANT

I know someone who has recently emigrated to New Zealand and as far as I can make out he had to have a business to take there,and a certain amount of collateral behind him as well.Where as here,we give them the kit and kaboodle.:p.......no one please start on about racism crap - my kids are of Polish peasant stock.:D
 

fredhenson

New Member
and I personally dont believe that Morrissey was saying that imigration was a problem, merely that he feels a certain nostalgia for the old british identity (something we dont necessarily want to preserve)
The 'floodgates' comment was taken out of context, he was commenting that eventually immigration (and birth control) will need to be restricted if we dont create a solution.
 

sparacus

Member
immigration has enriched the British culture and contributed to our economy and health service. Perhaps if we stopped waging war and exploiting the worlds poorest countries then they wouldn't want to leave their sunny homes for drizzly Britain.
I hope i don't undermine my argument by saying SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY ANSWER!!!

Mass immigration is incompatable with true socialism. It is used by business to keep wages low. Poles are often willing to work for extremely low wages.
Obviously Trotskyite Deviationists such as George Galloway support mass immigration but these people are wrong.
 

Jukebox Jury

Retired
Just because a few British people choose to live in Spain
.

A few?? Thousands and thousands my friend.

I have been to New York three times in the last two years. I would say in 85% of the bars I have been in (and believe me, I went in quite a few;))
the bar staff were Irish and working there illegally. Are they not taking jobs of American people and keeping the wages down for American people? It is the same over the world, people from another country / culture working illegally.
At least the eastern Europeans coming to the UK are actually here legally.

Jukebox Jury
 
I have been to New York three times in the last two years. I would say in 85% of the bars I have been in (and believe me, I went in quite a few;))
the bar staff were Irish and working there illegally. Are they not taking jobs of American people and keeping the wages down for American people?

That's not a very convincing example, though. We have a very low unemployment rate here, relatively speaking. Last's month's unemployment rate for NYC is 5.3%. I doubt that a sizeable portion of those unemployed citizens tried to get jobs as bartenders, only to be priced out by immigrant labor.
 

sparacus

Member
A few?? Thousands and thousands my friend.

I have been to New York three times in the last two years. I would say in 85% of the bars I have been in (and believe me, I went in quite a few;))
the bar staff were Irish and working there illegally. Are they not taking jobs of American people and keeping the wages down for American people? It is the same over the world, people from another country / culture working illegally.
At least the eastern Europeans coming to the UK are actually here legally.

Jukebox Jury

Just because other countries are incompetant at controlling their own borders does not mean that we should do the same. Illegal immigrants should be dealt with by proper enforcement of the law not the deliberate turning of a blind eye.
 

Worm

Taste the diffidence
I have been to New York three times in the last two years. I would say in 85% of the bars I have been in (and believe me, I went in quite a few;))
the bar staff were Irish and working there illegally.

I've noticed that. I think most of them are actors who do the Irish accents for extra tips and/or hitting on gullible young maidens. I have been with lady friends in bars tended by "Irish" men and the pourers always get some extra attention. The accent seems to invite flirtation. (Over here, anyway.) Merely a sweet scam, methinks.
 

fredhenson

New Member
Mass immigration is incompatable with true socialism. It is used by business to keep wages low. Poles are often willing to work for extremely low wages.
Obviously Trotskyite Deviationists such as George Galloway support mass immigration but these people are wrong.

surely big business use Chinese sweatshops for their cheap labour?
 
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