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DAVIE

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Anyone looking forward to the movie?
No Arnie, but still....some kick ass Predators gonna tear your flesh off and then...kill you!
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P.S. How the hell do you put a youtube vid on a post?
 
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DAVIE said:
Anyone looking forward to the movie?
No Arnie, but still....some kick ass Predators gonna tear your flesh off and then...kill you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p75vTdIW2yo

P.S. How the hell do you put a youtube vid on a post?
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Hell yeah! I'm gonna see this for sure! :guitar:

To post a youtube, you go like this [youporn] video embed code [/youporn]

Except it's YouTube, not YouPorn.

So, like this:

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I'll leave you the honor of posting the Predators trailer. :)
 
Ahh thanks Theo mate...Yeah it looks a LOT better than Predator 2 and the very disappointing AVP films
 
Haha, he is definately right there! But people are saying it would be boring if we just see them fight for 2 hours without humans....It wouldn't for me lol, I'd rather watch that than watching Wimbledon for an entire day!
 
McLovin said:
Directed by Robert Rodriguez no less. Yes, I am totally geeked out about it. :thumb:
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Rodriguez wrote and produced, he didn't direct. According to Rodriguez he wrote the script in the mid-90s specifically for Arnold, but the studio went in another direction.

However, anything with Robert's name on it will probably be halfway decent, so I'll see it. Robert Rodriguez is way underrated. I'd take him over Tarantino, Anderson, or Nolan any day.
 
Worm said:
Rodriguez wrote and produced, he didn't direct. According to Rodriguez he wrote the script in the mid-90s specifically for Arnold, but the studio went in another direction.

However, anything with Robert's name on it will probably be halfway decent, so I'll see it. Robert Rodriguez is way underrated. I'd take him over Tarantino, Anderson, or Nolan any day.
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Really? I take it then, you haven't seen the Spy Kids franchise films 8, 10, 12 times each as I have. :sick:

Anesthesine, yes. Brody is oddly sexy.
 
Apparently Predators aren't the only Aliens in the film...And I think that's true coz otherwise the Predators would just kick their ass in 1 minute of the film!

Edit: Apparently there is a Alien Prequel coming out too directed by original Alien director Ridley Scott, anyone intrested?
 
Worm said:
However, anything with Robert's name on it will probably be halfway decent, so I'll see it. Robert Rodriguez is way underrated. I'd take him over Tarantino, Anderson, or Nolan any day.
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What? I thought that Tarantino was the badboy auteur of his generation - I thought you were one of his biggest fans...

PregnantForTheLastTime said:
Anesthesine, yes. Brody is oddly sexy.
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He is oddly compelling - he's one of those actors who will sell a film for me. He was fantastic in Splice (which just came out and which, apparently, no one saw).

DAVIE said:
Apparently there is a Alien Prequel coming out too directed by original Alien director Ridley Scott, anyone intrested?
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I'm a big fan of that particular series, even though the films degraded over time. The first two were classic.

A 3D prequel sounds like just another mindless mining of a franchise, and Ridley Scott has proven that he can be both a man of vision and a real hack. But if it's even halfway decent, I'd go. As long as they don't make Ripley a bimbo - please, don't go there.
 
Anaesthesine said:
What? I thought that Tarantino was the badboy auteur of his generation - I thought you were one of his biggest fans...
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I don't dislike Tarantino, I like him a lot. I just like Rodriguez better. Rodriguez has less obvious capital-A Ambition than Tarantino, and lacks the latter's "auteur" credentials, true. Top to bottom he's a better filmmaker, that's all.

Also, if you look at Tarantino's successes, his best films are really collaborations, one way or another. "Reservoir Dogs" was a rip-off of "City On Fire", half of "Pulp Fiction" belongs to Roger Avary, the best parts of "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" are Rodriguez' contributions, and the soul of "Jackie Brown" is Pam Grier matched up with Elmore Leonard's story. That leaves "Kill Bill" and "Inglorious Basterds", which in my mind are both little more than interesting failures, and "Grindhouse", which dramatically illustrates my point: Rodriguez' segment is insanely good and Tarantino's is a snooze-fest.

Anyway. Neither is better than Sofia Coppola. :)
 
Worm said:
Also, if you look at Tarantino's successes, his best films are really collaborations, one way or another. "Reservoir Dogs" was a rip-off of "City On Fire", half of "Pulp Fiction" belongs to Roger Avary, the best parts of "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" are Rodriguez' contributions, and the soul of "Jackie Brown" is Pam Grier matched up with Elmore Leonard's story. That leaves "Kill Bill" and "Inglorious Basterds", which in my mind are both little more than interesting failures, and "Grindhouse", which dramatically illustrates my point: Rodriguez' segment is insanely good and Tarantino's is a snooze-fest.
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Oh, I've never been a Tarantino fan, which gets me into a lot of pleasant arguments with various cinephiles that I run across. I just watched Inglorious Basterds for the first time after one particularly ardent fan told me it was great: it was a lame joke that went nowhere, despite having the most (literally) explosive material to draw from.

Personally, I agree with you - his talent lies in reinterpretation, appropriation and collaboration, which makes him interesting, but far from the visionary film prophet that so many people take him for. His reputation mystifies me.

Worm said:
Anyway. Neither is better than Sofia Coppola. :)
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Lost in Translation is GENIUS, but Marie Antoinette was gorgeously dull.
 
Anaesthesine said:
Oh, I've never been a Tarantino fan, which gets me into a lot of pleasant arguments with various cinephiles that I run across. I just watched Inglorious Basterds for the first time after one particularly ardent fan told me it was great: it was a lame joke that went nowhere, despite having the most (literally) explosive material to draw from.
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There's a lot to love in Tarantino's films. But I think that deep down cinephiles love Tarantino because he represents the triumph of cinephilia. "If I love movies enough, movies will love me back in a very remunerative way..."

Anaesthesine said:
Personally, I agree with you - his talent lies in reinterpretation, appropriation and collaboration, which makes him interesting, but far from the visionary film prophet that so many people take him for. His reputation mystifies me.
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It's his debts to the French New Wave that gave him his reputation. People still look back fondly on those filmmakers as "revolutionaries", as both artists and social critics, and Tarantino's films borrow a little of their glow. But they're pretty much empty of either political content or artistic innovations.

Anaesthesine said:
Lost in Translation is GENIUS, but Marie Antoinette was gorgeously dull.
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You should check it out again. It's playing on Sundance. Like you I found it dull but there's a lot going on in that movie beneath its lovely surfaces. It's not as complete and polished as "Lost In Translation" (or "The Virgin Suicides" for that matter) and suffers from some ludicrous mistakes (Jason Schwartzman as the King of France?). However, every scene in the movie strains against itself, as if powerless against its own boredom, and gradually it forms an interesting commentary on boredom itself, the vacuum of luxury and privilege. I think it's one of those oddities that sacrifices itself on the altar of its own artiness, but even so the movie is much better than many people give it credit for.

If she makes about two or three more really good movies, and I think she will, Coppola will go down as our generation's best director. Many years from now I think her movies will hold up brilliantly as documents of the times. Wes Anderson's (and others') won't.
 
Worm said:
You should check it out again. It's playing on Sundance. Like you I found it dull but there's a lot going on in that movie beneath its lovely surfaces. It's not as complete and polished as "Lost In Translation" (or "The Virgin Suicides" for that matter) and suffers from some ludicrous mistakes (Jason Schwartzman as the King of France?). However, every scene in the movie strains against itself, as if powerless against its own boredom, and gradually it forms an interesting commentary on boredom itself, the vacuum of luxury and privilege. I think it's one of those oddities that sacrifices itself on the altar of its own artiness, but even so the movie is much better than many people give it credit for.
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Well, that's one film I don't mind revisiting. I think the art direction is profound enough to give it a weight that it might not otherwise deserve.

Worm said:
If she makes about two or three more really good movies, and I think she will, Coppola will go down as our generation's best director. Many years from now I think her movies will hold up brilliantly as documents of the times. Wes Anderson's (and others') won't.
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I think she will, too. I don't know about the best director of her generation, but I suppose it's possible, if she cranks out another subtle masterpiece or three.

Wes Anderson is waaaay to mannered for me; another director who cinephiles adore, but who leaves me a bit cold. Still, his flat delivery has been oh-so influential.
 
Wes Anderson films = The Selby with a soundtrack.
 
Anaesthesine said:
I think she will, too. I don't know about the best director of her generation, but I suppose it's possible, if she cranks out another subtle masterpiece or three.
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She has the technical chops, a strong enough signature to qualify as an auteur, and at least one masterpiece to her credit ("Lost In Translation"). I think one additional criterion for judging a generation's "best director" is how accurately his or her films reflect their times. Not the only one, for sure, but an important one.

For me her films touch on the "boredom" and "blankness" of the late 90s and early 00s in a more interesting way than her peers' work. She heightens the sense of boredom attached to privilege but carves out a space within that for a subtle but striking restlessness. Her films are surprisingly negative, by which I mean her heroines are subtracted from their own stories in various ways. I don't know if that qualifies as a "feminist" streak in her work or not, but Coppola does seem to have a uniquely feminine perspective. Men wouldn't have made those films in quite the same way (is it a surprise that the gifted Kathryn Bigelow, who was praised for directing action films "as good as a man", became the first Oscar-winning female director?). I know it sounds bizarre to say this, because her films are ultra stylish, but Coppola is one of the only directors I'm aware of who actually takes a critical position against contemporary culture. What people miss is that her position is, again, essentially negative-- and presented as standing outside of any conflicts-- so her perspective is much harder to read.

Anaesthesine said:
Wes Anderson is waaaay to mannered for me; another director who cinephiles adore, but who leaves me a bit cold. Still, his flat delivery has been oh-so influential.
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"Rushmore" remains in my all-time Top 20, but I hear you. He's had an ill effect on the medium to be sure.
 
Anaesthesine said:
What? I thought that Tarantino was the badboy auteur of his generation - I thought you were one of his biggest fans...



He is oddly compelling - he's one of those actors who will sell a film for me. He was fantastic in Splice (which just came out and which, apparently, no one saw).



I'm a big fan of that particular series, even though the films degraded over time. The first two were classic.

A 3D prequel sounds like just another mindless mining of a franchise, and Ridley Scott has proven that he can be both a man of vision and a real hack. But if it's even halfway decent, I'd go. As long as they don't make Ripley a bimbo - please, don't go there.
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I think coz it's a prequel, they're going to probably have a male lead actor since it's before Ripley and they don't want every single film to revolve around her....and her clone :confused:
 
Worm said:
Rodriguez wrote and produced, he didn't direct.
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Have you seen it yet?

No genuine spoilers in the following, but I'll err on the side of caution:

I think it was a mistake for Robert Rodriguez not to have directed this movie if only for my own selfish reasons. Nevertheless, I'll give it a generous 7/10.

Anaesthesine said:
He is oddly compelling - he's one of those actors who will sell a film for me. He was fantastic in Splice (which just came out and which, apparently, no one saw).
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I saw that. I was pleasantly surprised, but for reasons I’m sure you’ll understand, this particular image kept popping in my head as I sat there watching the movie:

*mild spoiler warning*

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