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Do you have any good Morrissey stories?
(laughs) Yeah, I got one. I don’t know if I should be telling this. Well, O.K., so Spencer and I were writing together in his apartment in the East Village one afternoon–and Spencer spoke liberally to me about his experiences with Morrissey, that he’s kind of an intense, strange person, and there are rumors that he’s a racist–not that I really believe it, maybe he just uses racist remarks to shock or whatever. Or maybe I’m just still a fan and I’m creating excuses for him. Anyway, at that stage in Morrissey’s life–this was the late 90s–he was big into faxing. It’s very ominous, faxing. I mean, there’s this big, scary machine sitting there and suddenly it just beeps and the grr grr grr of the paper coming through, it’s really a little frightening! So Spencer and I are writing a song together and off goes the fax machine in the other room. And Spencer goes in there and it’s Morrissey faxing to see if he can use this song that he and Spencer wrote together. I think Morrissey owed Spencer money then and things were all out of sorts. So Spencer faxes him back and says, you know, sorry mate but I don’t think that’d be best until we’ve got all the rights sorted out, et cetera, et cetera. And he comes back into the living room and he and I are pling-plonging away on our guitars. Then, after a little while, we hear beep! grrrrr grrrrr grrrrr and we both look at each other and Spencer goes in to get the fax, and he comes back with this piece of paper in his hands and in big, black letters scrolled across the page it reads, ‘YOUR LOSS JEW BOY.’ It was like a death threat the way it looked! (laughs) Poor Spencer, he was just devastated. He’s very sensitive, too. I think after that he and I just went to a bar, did some drugs, drank beer for ten hours.
 
My initial response was :rofl: !!!


Sarcasm, people. Many a rant is lost in translation over the internet, so is the case in faxdom as well. To overanalyse this is boring.
 
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Assuming that is what the fax said can you explain the joke, I didn't get it.
 
I'm Jewish; not that it really matters. I found it funny more than anything :D, and that's presuming the story isn't bullshit.

There was clearly no malice intended.
 
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I'm Jewish; not that it really matters. I found it funny more than anything :D, and that's presuming the story isn't bullshit.

There was clearly no malice intended.

How can you say there was no malice intended?

The story goes that apparently Spencer was actually really hurt by it, IF the story is totally true, then I doubt after so much time that Morrissey would have to know by that stage that a comment like that wouldn't be seen as funny or a joke and it would have to be hurtful.
I don't think Morrissey is a racist, I don't buy into all that stuff, but he can be incredibly insensitive it seems and knows the right buttons to push.

Who knows.
 
Libelous nonsense! Morrissey has never been and never will be a bassist! :mad:

And I know so because I'm a Catholic dog! :mad:
 
Everyone needs to yamulkalm down, let's kippot in perspective okay?
 
Are Jews really a race? No more so than Catholics or Protestants.
 
Jews are a people. Catholics or Protestants are not a people.....but I don't understand anything at that thread...
 
What makes Jews any more 'a people' than Catholics or Protestants (outside the Jewish head)?

At worst, Morrissey is anti-Semitic-as is the opener of this thread.
 
What makes Jews any more 'a people' than Catholics or Protestants (outside the Jewish head)?

They were a people living on one territory and were united by the culture, language, moral, customs... and afterwards they were banished etc. But They are still united by culture, language...not the Catholics and the Protestants. For ex, I'm born catholic but I'm part of the French people.

I still don't understand anything at that thread.
 
Racy? Yes.

Racist? No.
 
How can you say there was no malice intended?

The story goes that apparently Spencer was actually really hurt by it, IF the story is totally true, then I doubt after so much time that Morrissey would have to know by that stage that a comment like that wouldn't be seen as funny or a joke and it would have to be hurtful.
I don't think Morrissey is a racist, I don't buy into all that stuff, but he can be incredibly insensitive it seems and knows the right buttons to push.

Yep, I'm pretty sure that is the beginning and end of the whole thing (if it really happened). Echoes of "Jed Skullcap."

If it weren't for this:



He'd be in danger of being labelled an anti-semite as well as a racist (yes, I know, you can be anti-semitic and still support Israel, but why go into that now).

Morrissey may occasionally behave like a complete and utter clod, but I think he's above petty bigotry.

*sigh*
 
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