realitybites
making lemonade
I take it you've never read Animal Liberation.
I have. Many years ago.
He did narrate the PETA film "IF Slaughthouses Had Glass Walls," which is similar (though slightly older) than the PETA film, "Meet Your Meat," used the three times I saw Morrissey. Also, none of the three times I saw Morrissey was I subjected to anything. Were you subjected to something when you saw Morrissey?
Were captive audiences subjected to that PS narrated film? I have not seen the Moz hosted footage. Have seen Meet Your Meat and many other videos and documentaries though--by choice--for educational purposes. Not at a pop concert I attended for pleasure.
This is the first time anyone has mentioned animal rennet in reference to his tour rider on this forum to my knowledge.
I think most of us here know the difference between vegan and vegetarian cheese. It has been discussed here in the past. As has the consumption of gelatin.
I am aware and predicted you would respond with this--hence why I stipulated that the idea of what is or is not a mental illness is, at least partially, socially constructed and somethings that were once considered mental illness no longer are. I was specifically thinking of homosexuality past inclusion in the DSM when I wrote that
The common understanding of eating disorders is that they are a form of mental illness. Most medical sources list it as such. When I said it was not currently listed as one in the DSM, but well be in the DSM-V I was incorrect. DSM-IV does include anorexia, bulimia, pica, and eating disorder not otherwise specified. DSM-V will include binge eating disorder as a separate diagnosis from eating disorder not otherwise specified.
You may have a different perspective on eating disorders. It may in fact be correct, but it is not the currently widely accepted view in the mental health or medical community. Thus someone who sees the term and thinks mental illness is not someone who does know the definition, but somebody who took 8th grade health, googled eating disorder, or looked up its definition in the Oxford New American English Dictionary, which defines eating disorder as--
Perhaps the common medical wisdom is wrong. People used to think bloodletting was a valid medical practice or homosexaulity was a mental disorder. No more. However, in the scenario above the failure to communicate properly is solely caused by your unique (though possibly true) views of what an eating disorder is not the other person's ignorance.
As far as pica is concerned, pica is currently listed in the DSM-IV as a mental illness and is treated with SSRIs. This has been criticized by some, which may be your view as well. Nonetheless when you said Morrissey had an eating disorder it is perfectly rational to expect many, if not most people, who are familiar with the concept of an eating disorder would believe you were saying he had a mental illness.
The DSM is a guideline for billing purposes. If it is considered a disorder and listed, then yeah, one's insurance will pay for counselling, treatment, tests, and meds. If not, you're on your own kid. It is culturally relative. I wonder how many kids are diagnosed with ADHD every year in Japan? Not that I am anti-DSM. I'm not at all. I'm all for people getting medical attention when needed or desired.
Does fear of flesh constitute having an eating disorder? Only if it is causing health or life problems for the person. Are they sick because of it? Depressed? Unable to function normally? How about fear of female contamination. Is that a disorder instilled by the teachings of Islam and Judaism? Probably. Should all the men practicing those religions be on SSRI's? No. I have a better solution. Can you guess what it is?
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