BrummieBoy
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Go ahead and report it now.
Things have changed since you were harassed in 2004. It's effortlessly easy for the UK/US police to trace stuff like this. Let's hope they find this person quickly.
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BB
Go ahead and report it now.
Things have changed since you were harassed in 2004. It's effortlessly easy for the UK/US police to trace stuff like this. Let's hope they find this person quickly.
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BB
That is why we have a problem with the preacher, Morrissey, not practicing what he is preaching to his apostles--and other audience members who just want to hear their favorite singer sing but not be searched, prior to entering a venue, for meat contraband.
I think you just described Morrissey.
Must have an illness because they enjoy pointing out hypocrisy? ?
Is everyone who sands against the grain in need of psychotropic drugs? Of course not.
It is just a hypothesis--like any other put forth on these forums.
I do know that the vegetarians I have met who hate the taste and texture of meat--never liked it and don't crave it--have about as little of a problem resisting consuming it as do the rest of us who are able to abstain from walking over hot coals. It isn't even a matter of willpower.
I think he is one of those types.
I never said he was mentally ill. I suggested his eating is disordered.
And clearly it is.
Does he care about animals? I believe he does. Does he suffer from cognitive dissonance because he is able to consume butter and cheese which were produced in that same system of suffering he claims to be appalled by? Of course--he must. Who wouldn't
Is there anybody here on board who does NOT believe that factory farming should be abolished?
You seemed to have missed the point of my entire metaphor.
As far as Morrissey goes, he does practice what he preaches. He tells people not to eat meat. He does not eat meat. Just like Peter Singer.
Paul McCartney. He apparently eats vegetarian cheese.
(meaning it was not made with animal rennet--a level of consciousness beyond most ethical vegetarians and something that has been completely ignored).
Whether or not one can only be a true animal rights activist if they are a vegan is a debate. However, if you're not a vegan you don't really have much to contribute and you appear less like someone concerned with the welfare of animals or hypocrisy and more like a very defensive omnivore or someone with a personal vendetta.
I was not referring to Morrissey, I was mentioning my personal experience with very abusive and bullying meat eaters.
Did you read my post? I never mentioned people who enjoy pointing out hypocrisy. I was very explicit about a very specific subset of the general population I have encountered. Not sure why you keep shifting the focus away from who I was referring to.
Hypothesis is one word you could use. Gossip, armchair psychology, rumor mongering, baseless speculation are all equally adequate synonyms in this scenario. But I suppose those words all lack the connotations of scientific rigor.
Eating disorders are widely considered to be a form of mental illness, though the DSM-V will be the first DSM to feature a specific diagnosis of eating disorders as a mental illness. Obviously, we can debate what is and is not a mental illness--as it is arguably a socially constructed category--and our perceptions of what is or is not a mental illness change over time--but when most people read "eating disorder" they are going to think mental illness.
This should be in the First World Problems thread.
Hi dude, I am a pig in factory farming and I clearly disagree. This is totally basic and existential for me, thx.
Peter Singer is not subjecting an audience to torture porn in order to make them feel ashamed of their dietary choices fifteen minutes after popping a handful of Cheez-Its down his gullet.
Does he subject his audience to emotionally manipulative propaganda with the attempt change hearts and minds?
It has not been ignored. We know that. He refrains from cheese that uses dead animal byproducts but not the products of lactating, confined, habitually impregnated dairy cows whose offspring are killed after birth--or shorty after--after being tortured for months in veal stalls.
Anyone with a voice can and should contribute to the discussion. Including you.
Do (did) they try to make you feel guilty for not eating meat?
Why can't a meat eating fan point out Moz's dietary hypocrisy?
Each hypothesis begins with a hunch. It is an educated guess. Theory is the word you are looking for. If I said I have a theory that Moz has an eating disorder. Well I better have some strong evidence to support that theory. Or it is not a theory, is it? It is just a hypothesis at this point. See the difference?
Homosexuality was regarded as a mental illness until the late 70s--as you know. I can't help if people read the term 'eating disorder' and do not understand its definition e.g. disordered eating. Pica is an eating disorder. But no one would call it a mental illness.
I think he may have a phobia about blood which means he can't eat animal products with obvious blood residue but is fine with those that are blood-free, like cheese.
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The problem with our society today is that people see pictures of factory farming but refuse to take up a stance. They prefer to say nothing at all.
But here in this case it's only a clear yes or a no: yes, I accept it or no, I abhor it.
So, why be quiet about the pictures that are known to all of us?
I assume that those who do NOT clearly take up a stance with regard to factory farming secretly approve of it. I assume that the same people DON'T give a f*cking (excuse me) shit about the animals that have to face the most brutal nightmares you could never imagine or dream of, and that you wouldn’t wish to happen to your worst enemy.
So, how come that those people who CANNOT SPEAK UP CLEARLY against or in favor of factory farming, who, I assume, must hate animals and want to see them suffer as agonizingly as possible, or, even worse, who don't give a shit and who in their acceptance are only expressing the most utter disinterest in the fate of these creatures,
suddenly think they can accuse someone of hyprocrisy and contempt for animals who was brave enough to take up a stance against this brutal killing and money making machinery? Something THEY would have never ever been able to do themselves.
And it’s the same implicitly accepting people who then argue that the mentioning of some obscure cheese on his tour rider is a sign of him not really being interested in the animal liberation issue, of him secretly supporting this system of brutality and exploitation.
I say it’s YOU, those who chickenshit hide within their comfortzone of convenience and cowardice, who are to be criticized, put in the public pillory, quartered, and then wipped and flogged for your feigning ignorance and for your lapsing into silence while those who are screaming straight into the cameras are abused in front of your eyes.
Whatever Morrissey's imagined intentions, he is clearly delusional and hypocritical in eating cheese, thereby condoning and supporting the Gendercide Of Male Calves.
I hope you feel better after that emotional ventilation. It doesn't change a thing. Morrissey is a hypocrite. Deal with it.
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ps: You *might* want to tone done the torture/flogging/whipping stuff. As, indeed, Morrissey could usefully do. He's just as guilty as anyone in his audience who eats at a burger stand after the gig. The difference is, he imagines he's on a higher moral plane.
You should tell us about yourself Brummie. What makes you tick? What are your inconsistencies? What are your human traits that don't make you perfect?
Maybe you are perfect with a perfect life and you've never done anything wrong. Maybe that's what gives you all of this time to throw stones at someone else?
I do not tick as I am not a clock. Yes, I am a perfected, enlightened Being. That's why I am communicating with Humanity via this website. As for stones: Morrissey is in a glass house of his own making, so should be careful of throwing rocks at himself.
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Peter Singer is not subjecting an audience to torture porn in order to make them feel ashamed of their dietary choices fifteen minutes after popping a handful of Cheez-Its down his gullet.
Does he subject his audience to emotionally manipulative propaganda with the attempt change hearts and minds?
It has not been ignored. We know that. He refrains from cheese that uses dead animal byproducts but not the products of lactating, confined, habitually impregnated dairy cows whose offspring are killed after birth--or shorty after--after being tortured for months in veal stalls.
Anyone with a voice can and should contribute to the discussion. Including you.
Do (did) they try to make you feel guilty for not eating meat?
Why can't a meat eating fan point out Moz's dietary hypocrisy?
Each hypothesis begins with a hunch. It is an educated guess. Theory is the word you are looking for. If I said I have a theory that Moz has an eating disorder. Well I better have some strong evidence to support that theory. Or it is not a theory, is it? It is just a hypothesis at this point. See the difference?
Homosexuality was regarded as a mental illness until the late 70s--as you know.
I can't help if people read the term 'eating disorder' and do not understand its definition e.g. disordered eating. Pica is an eating disorder. But no one would call it a mental illness.
eating disorder |idɪŋ dɪˈsɔrdər|
noun
any of a range of psychological disorders characterized by abnormal or disturbed eating habits (such as anorexia nervosa).
On the cheese front, I've always wondered how this levels with Hindus where the cow is sacred animal. How ethical would Paneer be?
Paneer does not use animal rennet hence how Hindus are able to believe cows are sacred and consume it. Though I suppose their motivations could also be suspect and they may just have cow flesh phobia and are covering it up.
Yes, much like Islam and Judaism's swine phobia. And my fear of eating insects.