Johnny Rogan Dies (February 12, 2021)

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Johnny Rogan, leading music biographer, dies, aged 67 - The Irish Times

"London Irish writer was famous for his attention to detail and clash with Morrissey"

Excerpt:

"Johnny Rogan, the London Irish music writer best known for his biographies of the Byrds, Neil Young, the Smiths, Van Morrison and Ray Davies, has died at his London home. He was 67.

The author of more than 25 books on music, by far his most successful was Morrissey & Marr: The Severed Alliance, a book about the Smiths published in 1992 five years after the band’s break-up which prompted Morrissey to say: “I hope Johnny Rogan ends his days very soon in an M3 pile-up.”"





Regards,
FWD.
 
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Which is ironic really, because these blinkered, full-of-excuses fans - the ones pretending that they honestly can't tell shit from clay - are the very people whose support lulled Morrissey into thinking that he could do and say anything. They are a key cause of his disgrace because he just lost perspective, he never even imagined a backlash. That goes for the Yes-men on the Payroll, as well.
o_O

some of these 🚜s have been whining for 20-30 yrs.(n)
they refuse to get jobs. 2o yrs wanting to get on the Moz dole. what a disgrace.(n)
all are currently unknown twats.:mad:
 
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Until this book arrived, I had assumed that the gruesome twosome of Marr and Morrissey's absurd self-mythologising was informed by a camp-tastic irony. Clearly not given Morrissey's potty mouthed outbursts and similar ill-advised vitriol from Maher which has been helpfully resurfaced in this thread. Once they'd both been exposed as hustling bitches who set out to shaft (variously) their schoolfriends, band members and business associates in that hilarious High Court case of mortifying, destructive DRAMA! : then it was all over bar the descent into reputational oblivion which has now consumed both of them as far as I can see. The only unjust element remaining is that Marr is somehow seen as less implicated than his delusional accomplice in this failed scam, purely because he has some residual sanity and listened to his lawyers when they advised the game was up, to settle and move on whilst The Diva had years more of hugely amusing hissy fits, going to the House Of Lord Fraud Whores to beseech them to help him hold on to his £$, not his friends. How ironic that the 'rebel' who claimed to be against wealth and privilege, famously ineptly dissing the Queen Of England, ended up on his knees before a brace of bishops, peers and ancestors of William The Conqueror offering up the last shreds of his credibility in hopes they would side with his silly attempts to rewrite contractual obligations and history. The only sadness, for me, was that Morrissey didn't take this all the way to the EU 'Court Of Human Rights' in Strasbourg for a final cataclysmic dénouement. When the arts collective commonly known as 'The Smiths' appeared prior to the Interwebz it was still possible to 'do a Bowie' and pull off fairly impressive feats of reinventions. Loads of acts/artists did it, Madonna taking it to the gaudy max, of course. Morrissey's juvenilia genius move was to focus and locate that reinvention via Art in his locality and its history, in a way that blindsided the culture and was ridiculously impressive for a while. Alongside the musical historian Marr's co-opting of famous guitarist sonic landscapes like Rory Gallagher and the rest, it was all to make a wonderful palette, an Altar Of Influence that stands the test of the passage of time even as Morrissey is in endless karaoke mode and Marr isn't that fussed, TBH, as far as I can see. There's more to life than being more and more rich and famous: unless, of course, you're trapped in an existential cul-de-sac like the prat Steven. I read Rogan's book as a Loki prankster provocation and the reaction was baffling as by as the archival power of the Interwebz was debunking and deconstructing the auto-hagiographies of every 'star', including Bowie. But David read the runes and gave up all that stuff whilst Morrissey did his Carry On PR with an endless whining war with co-dependent click-bait press until the readership either got bored or threw up in disgust at Morrissey's 'Der Spiegel' downfall. Rest in peace, Mr Rogan, you did us all a favour, and it was funny as fcUK to watch the reaction as you savaged the neurotically curated fake Hall Of Mirrors that both Marr and Morrissey co-created. #TGIF. Sun is shining, I have some spare time, so I can have some fun on here annoying clowns in Croatia and Carlisle. It's A Wonderful Life when you're not lost in space and time seeking money, power and fame....best wishes...BB

PS:

Marr-Morrissey?
(why does the lyricist get precedence over the musicologist, by the way?)

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nutter.:crazy:

brace of bishops and William The Conqueror?:crazy:
stay off the prune juice FFS:crazy:
 

BrummieBoy

BrummieBoy - "Facebook Non-Entity"
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nutter.:crazy:

brace of bishops and William The Conqueror?:crazy:
stay off the prune juice FFS:crazy:
The irony of the car-crash serial abuser of emoticons as 'communication' calling anyone else a 'nutter' is both hilarious and profoundly sad.

Get back in your fcUKin box, trog...
 
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Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
Nope, there's nothing left to 'bite' - your nonsense has been rinsed, rolled up and hung out to dry, so you're back to emojis and trying to change the topic. That's all.

Glad you agree that you have nothing to offer that’s worth biting.

And the emojis are just to trigger you, and it’s plain to see that you were triggered by them.

That’s all !


:p


Up to you what you believe, as I said a number of people round here have met him and have no reason to lie and they are courteous enough not to spout off to the wider public,


Yes, I’m one of them.



however once he passes and if they are asked for a view, I'm pretty sure they will be honest.


Yes. If they don’t have an agenda, then they will not find it difficult to be honest.
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
I almost finished ny last post by writing "as always, when you have nothing sensible to say, you will insert some random Youtube video". Which exactly you just did.

No, there’s nothing ‘random’ about the video I posted.
Again, i'm not judging anyone, can't see how you can't grasp this simple sentence. Indeed I don't like some posts here, that's why from time to time I comment, but I always realise I have better things to do than waste my time here.

So you’re not judging Morrissey’s ‘behavior’ and then forming an opinion on it?
 

Nerak

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Quite pleased to discover Rogan didn't like Goldman's style.

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But the state of this lead... it would be on Morrissey's list of word crimes underlined.

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Verso

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Morrissey is a prick. They're almost all pricks. You have to possess a certain type of personality to make it to the highest levels of show business. Very few make it there on kindness and generosity. John Cale once said of Lou Reed, "I don't know how someone who wrote such beautiful lyrics could be the opposite of a human being in real life." This isn't news, nor is it especially interesting.
 
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No, there’s nothing ‘random’ about the video I posted.


So you’re not judging Morrissey’s ‘behavior’ and then forming an opinion on it?
I trust you have the ability to Google the words "judgement" and "opinion", then see the difference.
 
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The irony of the car-crash serial abuser of emoticons as 'communication' calling anyone else a 'nutter' is both hilarious and profoundly sad.

Get back in your fcUKin box, trog...
:rolleyes:

'fcUKin'o_O

thats to be used by the butcher log in FFS

bracing with bishops and William the Conqueror:crazy:
maybe being lead by 'the secretary Lady Marian' riding a horse:crazy:
nutter central:crazy:
 

Gregor Samsa

I straighten up, and my position is one of hope.
The overly adoring think Moz can do no wrong. The overly critical think he can’t do anything right. And on and on it goes for 462776 pages. You’re all daft. Thank goodness for the A-Z threads!
 
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The overly adoring think Moz can do no wrong. The overly critical think he can’t do anything right. And on and on it goes for 462776 pages. You’re all daft. Thank goodness for the A-Z threads!
:handpointup:

salmon psycho babble:rolleyes:
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
Nobody is judging anyone.

Then tell us what it is that you do in order for you to form the opinions you have after you have read something Morrissey has said that you think is so wrong? Are you not judging Morrissey in order for you to come to your conclusion that he is wrong?
 
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Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
Morrissey is a prick. They're almost all pricks. You have to possess a certain type of personality to make it to the highest levels of show business. Very few make it there on kindness and generosity. John Cale once said of Lou Reed, "I don't know how someone who wrote such beautiful lyrics could be the opposite of a human being in real life." This isn't news, nor is it especially interesting.

... or a thorn, I wouldn’t mind having in my side.


:cool:
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
The overly adoring think Moz can do no wrong. The overly critical think he can’t do anything right. And on and on it goes for 462776 pages. You’re all daft. Thank goodness for the A-Z threads!

I never claimed Morrissey could do no wrong. I simply love all that is wrong with him!


more please.

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:lbf:

all the nutter trolls think that the human clusterflock known as Le:frogface: can do no wrong:lbf:
 
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Johnny M can do no wrong and
that’s actually what’s wrong with him.

poor guy

🙁

So true. He started and ended the Smiths, often carrying the whole enterprise forward on his slender shoulders. And now, once again, the entire legacy of the Smiths rests with him. He can't afford a misstep.
 

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