Morrissey Central "ENNIO MORRICONE" / "MORRICONE & MORRISSEY IN ROMA" (July 6, 2020)


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"Ennio Morricone, the exalted and revered Italian composer, has died aged 91 in Rome. Morricone and his orchestra played on Morrissey's album "Ringleader Of The Tormentors"."

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"I was aware that Morricone had said no to U2, no to David Bowie, and no to Robbie Williams, so I was thrilled when he said Yes to me. His contributions to my 'Ringleader Of The Tormentors' album are, naturally, completely dismissed by the jargon jugglers, but they burst and thrive in my heart forever. In reflection of the happiest days imaginable, I say the temporary parting of ar'ri've'der'ci to he who gave all to the greatness of Italia."

MORRISSEY
6 July 2020


FWD.


UPDATE July 7:

Link posted by joe frady:


ENNIO MORRICONE…
….CONDUCTS MORRISSEY'S 'DEAR GOD, PLEASE HELP ME' IN ROMA

https://t.co/7JKy5EkYnW

Our thanks to Alice Gahan.


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Ketamine Sun

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...which Morrissey has never had anything to do with.

Morrissey liked the Whyte song enough to put words to. Morricone liked the Whyte song enough to put strings to.

They both could see the possibilities of the Whyte song, they both have incredible taste in music.

The perfect match.

:tiphat:
 

Ketamine Sun

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I used spoiler tags in order to avoid a huge wall of text because I pasted the relevant parts from the articles.
In fact, none of it is particularly exciting or interesting because it's 14 year old news. ;)

Well, this old news has aged like a fine wine that I drink with delight. So, thank you. :thumb:
 

Ketamine Sun

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How fitting that you misspelled "eww" as "ewe," which is a female sheep -- for that's clearly what you are: a sheep following your bigoted shepherd wherever he may lead.

Also, that wasn't my first post. You apparently missed this gem of mine:

🎵"But I know that you would like me...
If only you could meet me..." 🎵

Very, very doubtful, Moz. You've become a shameless self-aggrandizing egomaniac and right-wing nutter. What a waste of an otherwise extraordinary legacy.


Hey newbie, you be nice to @!Viva Hate!
 
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Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888

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Funny you should mention that, I thought about that police officer when I heard that story


Simple association of ideas: guy gets harassed by some douche for basically just doing his job and making people respect a rule that exists to make everybody feel safer. Wearing a mask. Following traffic rules.

In both cases, the douche feels rules don"t apply to him/ her. In spite of there being no logical reason why they shouldn't. Ladydouche doesn't mention having a condition, like asthma for instance, which might exempt her. Doucheman is just a passenger in a car driven by an idiot and therefore no different from what Italian policemen see every day.

The douche seems unable to understand rules are sometimes needed not to end up with a complete mess: contagion; car crash...He/she takes them as a personal affront.

In fact, the douche doesn't feel part of a community but above it. He/ she expects to be served by members of a community whose rules he/she won't follow, though.

She expects coffee , he expects his food to be perfect, his hotel bath to be spotless, someone to sweep the floor after he throws peanuts ...and he expects to be free to move as he bloody well likes, even if that means running over someone.

When people remind her/him she/he is nothing special (and even less than that if you consider concrete contributions to society, in Doucheman's case), the douche tries to name and shame. "I'm going to make you famous!" says Doucheman to Rafaele Baroni, and just like that, he is.( Lenin was sorta famous before ms Gilles introduced him)(well maybe not in the US.)

This often backfires, but here again, the douche fails to see why, because the narcissistic douche understands very little about human interaction in general.

Does the douche even care when people have very negative opinions about him? That's unlikely. The whole of Italy thinking he's a loathsome asshole won't prevent Doucheman from finishing his pasta in Peru.(which is why if we call Morrissey that on an internet forum, Gordyboy shouldn't get too upset).

Next time you harass a worker , Morrissey, because you despise anybody who works for a living instead of flourishing thanks to a lifetime of self-indulgence, entitlement, lies , manipulation, and near total imbecility, I'll start a gofundme campaign and will give all the money I've saved by not giving you any since 2004.

As for Enio Morricone, I think he just mistook you for Liberace and was curious. Just like everybody in Italy,, really.
I bet the novelty has worn off a bit, mate.

("Don't mate Morrissey!")


🤒

"WE call" the royal WE, Fake C?:blushing:
 

joe frady

Vile Refusenik
I remembered reading in Mozipedia that the managing director of Forum Music Village Marco Patrignani, who is also credited as producer for the string arrangement on Dear God Please Help Me, had a hand in convincing Morricone to work with Morrissey. So I googled a bit and with the help of my rusty Italian and google translate I found this article. No mention of Morricone's granddaughter but still an interesting story I think.

Not only cinema: once Marco Patrignani managed to convince him to return to the work of arranger. He succeeded Morrissey, who recorded his entire album Ringleader of the Tormentos at the Forum in 2006. On the record there are many references to Rome, the initial ambulance in The Youngest Was The Most Loved, and then Accattone by Pasolini, the films of Visconti, the Magnani, Piazza Cavour in You Have Killed Me. Morrissey sees the photos of the Maestro in the studio, he begins to dream of his collaboration for the arrangement of the second song, Dear God please help me. Marco Patrignani offers to mediate: "I went to his house and explained to him who Morrissey was, his importance in the rock world: "I don't do it", he told me, he didn't even let me finish talking", Patrignani recalls.
"We were in his private studio, I insisted, we were like, 'Ennio, we're talking about a rock star, he's a poet, he's a great character.' He was working on a soundtrack, so I allowed myself to tell him that if he accepted this he wouldn't have complicated the work plans a lot and it wouldn't cost much to lengthen a session." He wanted to listen to the song to arrange, then asked for the scores and guitarists Boz Boorer and Alain Whyte offered themselves even if for them it was a lunar request. In the end he became convinced: the day the orchestra played it, behind the glass in directing with me were Morrissey and producer Tony Visconti excited as kids. I think Morricone wanted to give me a present that day."
Link to article:


Snap.

Now up on MC ~


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GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn

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Benny-the-British-Butcher

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Funny you should mention that, I thought about that police officer when I heard that story


Simple association of ideas: guy gets harassed by some douche for basically just doing his job and making people respect a rule that exists to make everybody feel safer. Wearing a mask. Following traffic rules.

In both cases, the douche feels rules don"t apply to him/ her. In spite of there being no logical reason why they shouldn't. Ladydouche doesn't mention having a condition, like asthma for instance, which might exempt her. Doucheman is just a passenger in a car driven by an idiot and therefore no different from what Italian policemen see every day.

The douche seems unable to understand rules are sometimes needed not to end up with a complete mess: contagion; car crash...He/she takes them as a personal affront.

In fact, the douche doesn't feel part of a community but above it. He/ she expects to be served by members of a community whose rules he/she won't follow, though.

She expects coffee , he expects his food to be perfect, his hotel bath to be spotless, someone to sweep the floor after he throws peanuts ...and he expects to be free to move as he bloody well likes, even if that means running over someone.

When people remind her/him she/he is nothing special (and even less than that if you consider concrete contributions to society, in Doucheman's case), the douche tries to name and shame. "I'm going to make you famous!" says Doucheman to Rafaele Baroni, and just like that, he is.( Lenin was sorta famous before ms Gilles introduced him)(well maybe not in the US.)

This often backfires, but here again, the douche fails to see why, because the narcissistic douche understands very little about human interaction in general.

Does the douche even care when people have very negative opinions about him? That's unlikely. The whole of Italy thinking he's a loathsome asshole won't prevent Doucheman from finishing his pasta in Peru.(which is why if we call Morrissey that on an internet forum, Gordyboy shouldn't get too upset).

Next time you harass a worker , Morrissey, because you despise anybody who works for a living instead of flourishing thanks to a lifetime of self-indulgence, entitlement, lies , manipulation, and near total imbecility, I'll start a gofundme campaign and will give all the money I've saved by not giving you any since 2004.

As for Enio Morricone, I think he just mistook you for Liberace and was curious. Just like everybody in Italy,, really.
I bet the novelty has worn off a bit, mate.

("Don't mate Morrissey!")

What an excellent observation you have made Eli.
Love the ending as well. I’d like to say a huge thank you to everyone who donated money to Leni Gutierrez.
Maybe we should set up a Go4ckYourself campaign for that horrid woman.
Many thanks for contributing in the cause exposing Steve for the Selfish Nasty that he actually is.

P.S. I do hope my online Stalker pays you no attention. However if it does just ignore it. It seems to have ramped up the campaign to engage with me once again.

🇬🇧 :knife:
 

Ketamine Sun

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UGH. The only people more tiresome and obnoxious than Old Man Morrissey himself are his heads-in-the-sand apologists. You're as bad as blind faith Trump supporters.

 
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carlislebaz

Guest
What an excellent observation you have made Eli.
Love the ending as well. I’d like to say a huge thank you to everyone who donated money to Leni Gutierrez.
Maybe we should set up a Go4ckYourself campaign for that horrid woman.
Many thanks for contributing in the cause exposing Steve for the Selfish Nasty that he actually is.

P.S. I do hope my online Stalker pays you no attention. However if it does just ignore it. It seems to have ramped up the campaign to engage with me once again.

🇬🇧 :knife:
My campaign is certainly not to engage with you, oh no , simply to defend the rights of the Morrissey fan on a Morrissey site, I would never engage with a FLAPDOODLE like you, or the other left nut sucker, he’s just BOW WOW MUTTON.......
 
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Benny-the-British-Butcher

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Interesting fact about Ringleader Of The Tormentors.
Not many know this but the Police siren which can be heard at the beginning of The Youngest Was The Most Loved was recorded/sampled when Visconti sent out a young studio technician with a simple recorder.
What many people don’t know is that it was actually Police Officer Barone Raffaele of the local Polizia 113 on his motorcycle registered G2458 escorting none other than guitar ace Johnny Marr through the busy streets to a sound check for a gig later that night. The same Barone Raffaele who would later come back to terrorise and run Mr Morrissey out of Town in a hissy fit.
I bet Steve was well pissed off when this came to light. Poor Diesel having to calm that little tantrum down.

🇬🇧 :knife:
 

Ketamine Sun

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keep your day job, because you won’t make it as a writer of fiction.


Interesting fact about Ringleader Of The Tormentors.
Not many know this but the Police siren which can be heard at the beginning of The Youngest Was The Most Loved was recorded/sampled when Visconti sent out a young studio technician with a simple recorder.
What many people don’t know is that it was actually Police Officer Barone Raffaele of the local Polizia 113 on his motorcycle registered G2458 escorting none other than guitar ace Johnny Marr through the busy streets to a sound check for a gig later that night. The same Barone Raffaele who would later come back to terrorise and run Mr Morrissey out of Town in a hissy fit.
I bet Steve was well pissed off when this came to light. Poor Diesel having to calm that little tantrum down.

🇬🇧 :knife:
 
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Benny-the-British-Butcher

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keep your day job, because you won’t make it as a writer of fiction.

Honest to God Johnny was taking part in a secret gig.
I was there along with Skinny, Surface, Barleycorn, 12”, Nuts, Brummie, think little benny as well.
Johnny was really taking the piss out of Pansy Pete that night LOL.

🇬🇧 :knife:
 
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carlislebaz

Guest
keep your day job, because you won’t make it as a writer of fiction.
What is the day job we all ask !!!! A rat catcher??? Beverly Allots twin brother!! The list could be endless , or maybe the f***ers an artist,as he likes to draw the dole.....
 
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carlislebaz

Guest
Honest to God Johnny was taking part in a secret gig.
I was there along with Skinny, Surface, Barleycorn, 12”, Nuts, Brummie, think little benny as well.
Johnny was really taking the piss out of Pansy Pete that night LOL.

🇬🇧 :knife:
Wow... that’s quite an impressive list you have here benny... some legendary names from this site.... just a shame you ain’t one of them ....
 

Mayfly

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No idea why they didn't just buck up and release a full orchestral version of "Dear God Please Help Me." I wonder if an extended version exists somewhere.

I remember Ringleader being hyped to shit before it came out, what with the Morricone collaboration, Tony Visconti producing, all this talk about "Life is a Pigsty" being a proggy, multi-part epic (I remember one review referring to it as Morrissey's "Paranoid Android") and so on. Was deeply disappointed when it came out. Marginally more sonically interesting than Quarry, but the song quality was already starting to sag.

I didn't pay much attention to ROTT when it came out, but I have been listening to it on a regular basis lately. It is more upbeat and sonically versatile than YATQ, and the stronger tracks make it worthwhile. Dear God s certainly one of the more memorable songs in the Morrissey discography. I can relate to Morrissey feelng proud that this collaboration occurred, even if for Morricone, it was just one out of a large multitude of projects he was involved in (hence his remark that he didn't remember Morrissey).

I rarely play ROTT from beginning to end, the last 3 or 4 songs feel like fillers to me, so I am not necessarily disagreeing with.
 

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