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'''From ''Bonfire Of Teenagers,'' just going back to the album, do you have any favorite tracks on there?''' | '''From ''Bonfire Of Teenagers,'' just going back to the album, do you have any favorite tracks on there?''' | ||
It isn't possible really, they're all the same to me in the sense that I love them so much. So whichever ones that the record label choose to be released as singles and so forth it doesn't matter because it's all great it's all wonderful to me. | It isn't possible really, they're all the same to me in the sense that I love them so much. So whichever ones that the record label choose to be released as singles and so forth it doesn't matter because it's all great, it's all wonderful to me. | ||
okay you sound very | okay you sound very |
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Description:
Premiered on YouTube Nov 27, 2022
In his first filmed interview since 2015, Morrissey speaks on his best album to date.
Recorded October 9, 2022 at The London Palladium during his triumphant U.K tour.
Directed by Sam Esty Rayner Photography.
Transcript
Adapted from the YouTube transcript.
Morrissey, I thought a good place to start is with Bonfire Of Teenagers, the album. Obviously we haven't seen the release of it yet can you tell us what the status of that is?
It's very good it's about to be announced and released very, very quickly.
Brilliant.
So I will leave it up to others to announce that and it will be soon, very soon.
It is on its way?
Yes, it's on its way.
Excellent.
Finally. It's been a long claw, crawl, but it's on its way and I'm very pleased and it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful.
You sound really happy with it.
I'm so happy with it, so happy with it. It's incredible because I've been around a long time and if you can still make music that really excites you, I think that's unusual. I think a lot of people who've been around for 40 years can't quite do that. And I'm not being snippety, I don't think they can. I don't think so. But here, suddenly in my life I have this album which is really... I know people always say it's the best... which actually is. It actually is. I'm grateful.
It must be a great feeling after all these years to still know that you're in that place...
It is, it is... and I have made lots of music over those years. It's been pretty constant so having another stretch is unbelievable because (pounds chair) I'm not 22.
I wanted to sort of say I've been checking the set lists of the dates you've been doing recently and you've done a lot of songs from Bonfire Of Teenagers.
Yes
Do you feel an extra like sense of pressure when you're performing songs to a crowd that perhaps are unfamiliar with the work or does it not really cross your mind?
No, because I think you should be able to interest anybody, with any song really. You can't simply say, "Well, I'm only good for that song. I'm only interesting with that song, I can only sing that song." You have to be able to sing absolutely anything and do it in a way that interests people. And that I think is the measure of somebody who really deserves to be on the stage.
Yeah. That's actually one of the things that I admire about you as a performer. You don't patronize your audience by doing the same things over and over you. You don't shy away from doing perhaps rare tracks or obscure songs. I mean, is that a deliberate choice to mix things up or do you literally go with your gut instinct with what you pick?
I think they like it also. I think they like to hear off the beaten track songs. But the thing is, as long as you can do it and it's it's right and it's convincing and it's enjoyable, then it doesn't matter what you sing. It doesn't matter what you sing.
Exactly. And the shows have had such a fantastic reception as well.
Incredible. Absolutely incredible, I am really dazed by it and obviously thrilled, obviously thrilled.
I think you have probably one of the most die-hard army of fans that I've ever witnessed. They travel all over the world, across continents, they camp outside venues...
They're incredible... they do.
How does that feel to you, after the years you command still that level of respect and love?
I think it's because I'm a real person and they know I'm true. And it's actually quite rare, really, to have that kind of audience. You can be a stadium band and you can play enormous... to millions of people every night but nobody wants to go near your stage. You are a brand and you are a business but I'm not like that. I wasn't made by the music industry, I was made by the people. And there's a huge difference. When you look at artists you can tell all of those who were put there by the music industry. "You will be very big now you'll be very famous." And there are people who are of the people. There are singers who are of the people of which I am one. And often that works against you because the industry don't particularly like people like me. And the music press don't particularly like people like me because they know I'm of the people, they know it isn't just a "money has been injected into this person." Nothing has been injected into me I can assure you. So they don't know what to do with people like me, they think "this is odd."
It's almost like there's a preference to manufacture artists so that they can control them.
They understand manufactured artists. They can get rid of them when industry is bored with them, they just get rid of them. But you can't with people like me... unless... I'm shot.
Because it feels like you've made that personal connection with your audience and that makes a big difference.
Well, I didn't make it because of radio, British radio was never on my side. So it's gratifying.
You just do it for the love of music?
Yes, it's very, very genuine, very genuine.
From Bonfire Of Teenagers, just going back to the album, do you have any favorite tracks on there?
It isn't possible really, they're all the same to me in the sense that I love them so much. So whichever ones that the record label choose to be released as singles and so forth it doesn't matter because it's all great, it's all wonderful to me.
okay you sound very
happy
worrying
um you've been part of the music world
for so long now Maurice I'm just
wondering
what would you say in your opinion in
your experience as your biggest
frustration that you've had and that you
see well the blessing is the frustration
because you're outside the gates and you
don't you don't really have anything to
do with I don't really have anything to
do with the music industry and I don't
think I ever have
and that's okay but sometimes you think
well I think I do deserve to be on the
radio I think I do deserve to be
included somewhere but it doesn't ever
happen they don't include me anywhere
even just for perseverance and just to
shut me up they don't include me it's
very strange it's very peculiar shocking
as well because they must see the
audience is still there for you they
don't care they don't care they don't
care about it if you don't chase them
and say please do this for me please
please and they just think no no they
want to be chased they want to be wooed
I can't
um how have you personally I mean I know
that you've probably been asked about
this quite a lot but how do you
personally cope with seeing yourself
fictionalized and caricatured by the
Press so much I mean
is it difficult or do you so used to it
you're I'm used to it but it isn't
positive it's always
ridiculous I think mostly As far as I
can tell but I think you you put
yourself out there you step out there
and
you have to expect it really it's going
going to happen and it happens to
everybody
to a degree if they're interesting yeah
it doesn't happen to people who are not
very interested exactly but the people
that are seen as not interesting often
the ones they're just frightened to
actually say
what's on their mind and what they
believe usually there is nothing
[Applause]
um are you currently working on anything
else no I don't want to jump forward too
much because of the new album but I have
read somewhere that you've been writing
and recording again is there any priest
yes we have written the the follow-up um
and that will be recorded soon but it
won't be released soon because bonfire
of teenagers must have a chance to
breathe and blow and so forth yeah
so watch it will be recorded soon yes
um that is one thing that's actually
really impressive I mean looking at the
length of your career
other artists that might be in that
position
would often slow down whereas actually
if anything you've become
more yes regular like you very prolific
well that's a nice word someone would
have other words but uh uh it's it's all
I think about I haven't changed it's all
I think about all day all night all I
think about is the voice the song
is all I think about I am trapped
dedicated call it what you will but it's
my life you'd say it's your meaning and
everything that's my purpose really I
don't you won't see me on a golf course
or on a horse somewhere
uh I don't do anything really
just all music people only ever see me
running into I don't know the bread shop
but otherwise otherwise I don't really
exist
and that's okay that's okay
um looking at um
everything that I've personally seen in
recent years of the music industry one
thing I would say is
actually how bland it's become there's
so few people that are willing to stand
up and stand out for anything that
they're almost standing for nothing and
they're not really expressing anything
but you're the opposite of that I mean
was this just part of who you are or did
you have a like a mental decision like I
want to I want to get people challenged
and thinking and I don't really have a
choice but it but the thing is you have
to make it interesting for people you
have to make music interesting for
people and you have to make your
position interesting in the late 90s I I
was interviewed a great deal and I I I
constantly spoke of a dumbing Down that
was happening in England everywhere
television television commercials
everything to do with British life it
was just aimed at the and that has
absolutely happened now I mean if you
watch British television commercials
they're insufferable the noise and the
content is always the same people
dancing in six million pound kitchens
that's all people do in Britain is dance
dance dance dance dance they deliver a
pizza the dancing dancing it's really
now moronic and that shows everywhere
and you music really
not many people have faith in music
anymore and because a lot of things have
changed financially in the music
industry labels now can just get rid of
you if your album doesn't go instantly
Platinum there's so many younger bands
who have done really well with their
first album maybe they reach 23 22-21
it's not enough they're dumped they're
not allowed to make a second album
whereas years ago as you might know
people could make five flops and the
label would stick by them now the labels
are quite bloodless they will just get
rid of you if you say anything that they
don't agree with they're not saying they
won't see you through the Journey
anymore no no they're not interested
they're not and that's you know that now
they talk all about oh we must have
diversity diversity diversity which is p
diversity of people that you don't know
and it just means it's just another word
for Conformity it's the new way of
saying Conformity diversity you don't
see anything diverse anyway it's all
Conformity it's having the opposite
effect in fact it is because when people
talk about diversity they don't think
about the great things that we don't
have in common and those things are
ignored and they always made
country is very interesting because you
could travel to Germany you could see
the most incredible culture you go to
Italy see the most incredible culture
now they just want everything to be the
same the same yeah so diversity means
Conformity it doesn't mean let's it
doesn't mean avant-gard or let's make
really interesting strange Arts it means
box everybody yeah diversity I think is
the Dreadful word pin it to anything and
that
situation is finished it's a terrible
word terrible do you have an opinion on
social media because whenever I dip dip
in and have a look I think actually the
the group think and the extreme
opinions that are pushed they're
actually part of this problem I think so
because now everybody is an expert
critic everybody is an expert scientist
they know everything they have the
chance to review everything and Destroy
people yeah and if they can get their
friends to join in and make a campaign
of let's get rid of such a body you know
I think it more or less happened to
Jermaine Greer JK Rowling the two
perfect example if we all get together
and try and get rid of these people and
don't stop harping on about how
dangerous they are then it's it's pretty
lethal and I think there will be a way
to control it eventually but nobody
knows how yet and I don't think the
political Elite like it very much
because if you notice politicians are
going rapidly as well and that's because
of social media and people saying I
don't like you which they couldn't do in
the past but no they can't there's two
sides to that point really isn't there
but I quite often look at some of the
things on there and think
the witch hunts aren't really over are
they entirely well in one degree yeah no
one the thing is they desperately need
to find a witch they have to find a
witch
who is disgraceful and horrible and blah
blah blah blah blah blah and uh you can
see the joy in people do you remember
Mary White's house yes the joy so many
people have turned into Mary White's
house trying to cancel I don't know I'm
offended as of you being offended
that you're intelligent it just means
you're an idiot
um but this Mary White we're in a merry
White House culture now where everybody
must say stop I don't like that get us
off the planet and
people like that I think are a dreadful
people yeah just walk the other way
don't look switch off listen to
something else bake a cake you don't
have to stop it for other people yeah
but also
we're also in a in a protest culture
like the late 60s when everybody loved
to go out and be get on the streets and
protest and be angry about something and
to March up and down everybody wants to
do that now they want to be irate about
something
which is okay but uh you might be
wasting the time yeah um I wanted to
touch upon animal rights it's such a big
thing to you it's been a current theme
in your music and you've spoken out
about it in interviews um I personally
have noticed a positive shift going in
restaurants and cafes it's much more
commonplace to find vegan and vegetarian
options do you feel like we're now on
the right trajectory or are we too far
to I think I think it's really
fascinating
because I'm old enough to remember when
it was really stuck situation you
couldn't do anything about anything and
if you said the word vegetarian you were
ridiculed beyond belief but now I'm just
so happy about the changes everywhere
I'm really really happy and
um
so I know I have spoken endlessly
about this in the past but I feel
almost Justified now yeah because
there's a great reluctance what they're
doing it anyway they're reluctant to to
give you
um any Credence yeah but it's happening
anyway because they want to make money
so if you if you have eight friends who
go out to a restaurant and two of your
friends happen to be vegan then that
restaurant is going to lose everybody if
they can't cater for the two vegans so
everybody just saying oh God we have to
do it now and everybody is becoming
aware of animals as
Beautiful Creatures who have done so
much for us yeah they've done so much
for us give them a rest instead of
taking leave them alone they've done so
much for the human race and they should
be rewarded now and they should be
allowed to live I think I think that's a
massive thing you've done Morrissey like
I'd say what you're one of the leading
figures that have actually highlighted
the issue well so I shot my best
thank you thank you enjoy
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