Smiths Rarities in FLAC/WAV

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Vulgarian
Moderator
Ahh, so the fade choice was not yours. I've definitely perused some incarnation or other of the Never-Heard Symphonies set, but I couldn't recall the Glasgow '84 Girl Afraid being on there. Thanks for the input.




The file I have is this here MP3. I don't know whether it's the one labelled "Demo" or the one labelled "LP Out Take Used As B-Side" on the QID reference disc you illustrated above, but maybe you can clarify? If the one labelled "LP Out Take Used A B-Side" is actually an unedited presentation of the Bigmouth Strikes Again B-side (which clocked in at just under four minutes), then I'd assume my file is the one marked "Demo", as it sounds quite markedly different from the officially released recording in many respects. However, given the chatter at its conclusion of the take, I concede that it would probably be more accurately described as some kind of studio session rehearsal take than as a demonstration recording as such. Would you concur?
Unfortunately the ambiguity just makes it too hard to call. It definitely runs at the asserted time for the outtake version. However, where Stephane got that information from is anyone's guess (a CD might explain it maybe). As I've never seen RAK labelled on any tags and just 'demo' - makes it tougher too as I've not seen anything that would indicate it's that recording attached to the historical posts here or on Smiths Torrents - I will give my hard copy of the site a thorough look over the next few days.
I haven't forgotten to follow up - just had lots on - will finish up eventually :)
The Heaven Knows... may take a bit of time. The Hibbett videos aren't a problem if required to record MP3s however you want.
I see they were shared in FLAC elsewhere - which is ridiculous from a 128mb (at best) audio stream.
Regards,
FWD.
 

Ess90

Member
I haven't forgotten to follow up - just had lots on - will finish up eventually :)

No rush, good sir. I really appreciate all the input, you've been a tremendous help. :highfive:


The Heaven Knows... may take a bit of time. The Hibbett videos aren't a problem if required to record MP3s however you want.
I see they were shared in FLAC elsewhere - which is ridiculous from a 128mb (at best) audio stream.
Regards,
FWD.

I've been expecting that I'd have to hunt a copy of the HKIMN mispressing and get a needledrop done, so that would just be a big bonus if so ever/whensoever you were able to pull that one from somewhere. If you have the Hibbert YouTube rips handy, I absolutely would be grateful of a share of those when you have a chance. 🙌
 

Ess90

Member
By the way, FWD, I just finished putting together the set of BBC sessions I was compiling, made possible by your upload of I Don't Owe You Anything nigh on a week ago.

Would it be reproachable for me to share an MP3 version of the set here? Sixteen of its twenty-five tracks are sourced from official releases (namely Hatful of Hollow, The Peel Sessions, RTT 200 CD, WEA WPCR 12443 and Reprise ‎9 43525-2), at least one of which is still in print, so I figured I had better check first.
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
By the way, FWD, I just finished putting together the set of BBC sessions I was compiling, made possible by your upload of I Don't Owe You Anything nigh on a week ago.

Would it be reproachable for me to share an MP3 version of the set here? Sixteen of its twenty-five tracks are sourced from official releases (namely Hatful of Hollow, The Peel Sessions, RTT 200 CD, WEA WPCR 12443 and Reprise ‎9 43525-2), at least one of which is still in print, so I figured I had better check first.

That sort of thing has never stopped myself 😁
Feel free.
Regards,
FWD.
 

DavidA

Junior Member
I'm a bit late to the party but always happy to help completists on a project. Let me know if there are any unsolved mysteries.

I was pretty diligent about squirrelling away rare versions as they showed up and would always prefer FLAC over MP3. I noticed that on occasion the unofficial recordings were actually better than the official ones - some of the Sandie Shaw collaborations, for instance. The official vinyl rips mostly came from What.CD when that site was alive and I wish I'd done a better job of ensuring I'd got everything before it went down because the mods there were fastidious. About half the CD rips are from my own collection. I recall manually making a Rubber Ring/ Asleep segue from whatever CD single I had them on.

As for the radio sessions, I'd love to hear where you've got to @Ess90. I got 95% through the same project a few times before aborting through lack of a decent version of Wonderful Woman. [edit: just seen your post]

I'd love to add these projects to the archive when they're done.
 

Ess90

Member
I'm a bit late to the party but always happy to help completists on a project. Let me know if there are any unsolved mysteries.

I was pretty diligent about squirrelling away rare versions as they showed up and would always prefer FLAC over MP3. I noticed that on occasion the unofficial recordings were actually better than the official ones - some of the Sandie Shaw collaborations, for instance. The official vinyl rips mostly came from What.CD when that site was alive and I wish I'd done a better job of ensuring I'd got everything before it went down because the mods there were fastidious. About half the CD rips are from my own collection. I recall manually making a Rubber Ring/ Asleep segue from whatever CD single I had them on.

As for the radio sessions, I'd love to hear where you've got to @Ess90. I got 95% through the same project a few times before aborting through lack of a decent version of Wonderful Woman. [edit: just seen your post]

I'd love to add these projects to the archive when they're done.

Hi, David. Great to hear from you, and beg pardon for the slow reply (DIY has much to answer for). You're due a big thanks from me for your longstanding endeavor and for the existence of the Google Drive—the "Unofficial Recordings" section is a goldmine.

I wasn't expecting for them to find a home in the archive, but I'd certainly be happy to provide you with both MP3 and FLAC versions of the sets when they're all good to go. Aside from the BBC set (which I may make a couple more small tweaks to), there's a compilation of all seventeen single A-Sides (I realise it's been done officially, but not really to my satisfaction), a sequencing of Troy Tate recordings with the Crazy Face rehearsal tape included, a compilation I titled The Great Mancunian Songbook 1983–1987 which assembles the essential material that neither appeared on an album proper nor featured as a single A-Side and a final set which gives home to a disparate array of odds, ends, missing links and miscellanies.


@Ess90 re: Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now—Extended Mix, Rough Trade 12"

See what you make of this:

Tacky badge never shared in FLAC and the NHS one appears to be the digital composite.
Opinions!?
FWD.

Thanks for the upload, FWD. :clap: I shall investigate and report back in due course.
 

DavidA

Junior Member
I wasn't expecting for them to find a home in the archive, but I'd certainly be happy to provide you with both MP3 and FLAC versions of the sets when they're all good to go.

Those sound like perfect candidates for the archive and I'd love to add them. Let me know when they're good to go.

I always get a bit of a surprise when I listen to that Heaven Knows extended mix and I'm not used to the bonus chorus. As best I know, this extended version when unnoticed for years, even by Stephane.
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
Those sound like perfect candidates for the archive and I'd love to add them. Let me know when they're good to go.

I always get a bit of a surprise when I listen to that Heaven Knows extended mix and I'm not used to the bonus chorus. As best I know, this extended version when unnoticed for years, even by Stephane.
13 years ago.

Re: Archive: if things like my book collection appear there without a source - can I add it myself!? Given the headaches tracing things, I think some link back to who shares what will help in the future. No desperate credit seeking intended.
Regards,
FWD.
 
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