Morrissey Central "I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD" (August 23, 2020)

I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

“Following a stroke, her recovery was remarkable.
She had three extensive head-to-toe examinations by the NHS who could find nothing amiss.
Four days following the third all-clear examination I was told that my mother had three weeks to live.
Nine days later she had withered and died without any attempt by the NHS to save her life.
Once the NHS waves you off with paracetamol, get ready to meet your maker.
The official cause of my mother’s death was not the trendy and unquestionable “covid” - but, instead, cancer of the gallbladder … which had gone undetected by the NHS during their three thorough investigations.
How I wish to all gods that my mother had expressed no faith in the NHS.
She might still be alive today.”

Morrissey
23 August 2020.

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• Daily Mail: "Former Smiths frontman blamed the NHS for his 82-year-old mother's death" - August 24, 2020

 

[Deleted member 29417]

I reckon tosh bull ox. What the California Son has been saying around Moz Angeles is that his California Mom was visiting an old sick relative in Dublin, had a seizure and was sent to a hospital in Brittin that supposedly had better equipment to help her. The California Mom was treated like the First Lady in the Republic of Ireland, but once she was admitted to a Brittish hospital and they heard her Irish accent that had come back since she had been in Dublin, they treated her like shit and being the mom of the California Son made it worse. I really hope his Beverly Hills attorneys file a wrongful death suite against the Brittish hospital. She is not buried at Hollywood Forever, but an undisclosed cemetery in Moz Angeles that the location will be taken to the grave by the people of Moz Angeles inn nn nnn nn nnnn n n n nnn n it.

You already did this one as an Anon.

 

[Anonymous]

Such a shame this is the case and I would be saying the same thing if it was my Mother.

His opinions should be respected whatever your views.

Why? He has attacked the nhs for no apparent reason. Why should that be respected? Odd thing to say

 

[Jsc]

I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

“Following a stroke, her recovery was remarkable.
She had three extensive head-to-toe examinations by the NHS who could find nothing amiss.
Four days following the third all-clear examination I was told that my mother had three weeks to live.
Nine days later she had withered and died without any attempt by the NHS to save her life.
Once the NHS waves you off with paracetamol, get ready to meet your maker.
The official cause of my mother’s death was not the trendy and unquestionable “covid” - but, instead, cancer of the gallbladder … which had gone undetected by the NHS during their three thorough investigations.
How I wish to all gods that my mother had expressed no faith in the NHS.
She might still be alive today.”

Morrissey
23 August 2020.


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I DON'T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - I DON'T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

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• Daily Mail: "Former Smiths frontman blamed the NHS for his 82-year-old mother's death" - August 24, 2020

Your hearbreaking news will hopefully serve as a reminder for people like me who have been in a similar situation to verbalise their grievances because that seems to be what is lacking at the moment.

 

[Anonymous]

If you have 3 full examinations and the thing that eventually kills you isn't detected...wouldn't you say that's a bit amiss?

No because it wasn’t related to what they were looking for. She had had a stroke. There was no connection with what she was going to them for and gallbladder cancer.

And as I said even if they had have found it 3 weeks earlier the outcome would have been the same.

 

[SheilaSmith]

That's a very bad unfortunate case. It's awful when you think that things could have been done to save somebody's life, but nothing was done. However, gallbladder cancer it is very difficult to detect early. Sometimes there're no symptoms or not enough to detect it. She obviously had it for a long time and the cancer symptoms showed up when it was too late to do anything. However, I must say that the NHS seems not to make a big effort for the elderly when further investigations are needed. Also, it's very much about saving money, because they don't have enough coming in from present and previous governments.
I lost a dear friend from breast cancer five years ago, after she was clear for more than four years. They said she was doing fine and on the beginning of her fifth year, they said it came back and it was too late to save her. Did they really investigate properly? Well, NO!! Otherwise she would be probably alive.
I think Morrissey and family should ask for further explanations of what texts exactly they did and clear reasons of why the cancer was not detected if she was -for example- having tummy aches, feeling sick sometimes and yellow -ish eye balls.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, they do pay tax here.

Just like you pay local taxes on your hotel bill if you're abroad.

And it's not that easy to prove you're no longer resident. They take all of your ties into consideration.

Rubbish.

Artists get paid through companies when they come to the uk. Companies that are not tax resident in the uk.

This is why Apple, Amazon, Starbucks etc etc get away with it because the money is paid to a foreign company.

I have worked many times in foreign countries but paid to my uk company and I would not be liable to tax to the country I worked in as a foreign temporary worker. It is why many people go to work in places like Saudi etc.

There is no obligation for anyone to pay income tax or corporation tax if the person or company is non uk resident.

 

[E Scott]

Anger, rage, ffs if it wasn't for the NHS many of us would not make it past 50.How many times have antibiotics saved out lives and assistance with birth just to name 2 examples. Rare cancers are harder to diagnosis in a very short time frame especially in very elderly female who has recently had a stroke. .

 

[NealCassidy]

no and no and no.

He doesn't have a UK home and he isn't registered as a UK tax payer and hasn't been for a long time.

He has been staying with his mother and she owned that house.

There is no way you can know that - stop spouting . Please tell me how you could possibly know if he has a uk home or his tax residency status. Answer, you don’t.

 

[NealCassidy]

Why would he be caught in a scandal? I never suggested he was doing anything illegal.

Performers generally have a business/corporate entity in which to receive payments for their work. You can look up most artists resident in the UK and you will find their business connection and their accounts.

He ensures he remains as a tax exile. There is nothing illegal with that but hugely questionable morally especially when he keeps moaning about things that need taxation to work.

You will find no current business connections for him in which to receive payments for work etc. There are old connections registered but long closed.

Promoters don't just send a cheque to artists or leave a suitcase of cash in their room anymore. Regulation these days is huge and it would be very difficult for a promoter to pay an artist without the revenue knowing about it and it gets paid usually to a company which is the tax efficient way to do it rather than paying them cash directly to a personal bank account which would also then be known to the HMRC.

Having a company entity artists are then able to manage a tax structure correctly including employing people such as band members, crew and management etc. It wouldn't be possible to run a "company" this large with so many employees without a corporate entity of some kind and there isn't one in the UK.

Everything is connected these days and everyone in financial regulation can see most things. Big brother is watching.

So it would only make sense if that business entity is not in the UK and payments go offshore and he remains a tax exile and non domicile as he has been since he went to LA and that hasn't changed.

This is completely off topic though but you like doing that so getting back to the point, the NHS is dependent on tax payments.

The idea that he is non uk domiciled is utter f***ing bollocks, are you a complete moron?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

No he isn’t.

He is a non tax resident. Artists who come here don’t pay uk tax. Where do you get that from? You only have to pay uk tax if you are resident here. If it gets paid outside the uk then it has nothing to do with HMRC.

I get it from the tax system...

Pay tax in the UK as a foreign entertainer or sportsperson

How to apply for a reduced rate of withholding tax, and work out the tax due on worldwide earnings.

www.gov.uk

 

[NealCassidy]

 

[Anonymous]

There is no way you can know that - stop spouting . Please tell me how you could possibly know if he has a uk home or his tax residency status. Answer, you don’t.

Yes I do and why do you presume I should tell you how I know?

 

[Amy]

The idea that he is non uk domiciled is utter f***ing bollocks, are you a complete moron?

But how could anyone know? In recent years he has dodged the question of where he lives, going for the 'citizen of the world' type answer. He has said that he lives in hotels and keeps most of his stuff in storage, he has also said that Lausanne is his 'first home'. He is rich enough to have multiple homes. How could any fan know his tax status?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Rubbish.

Artists get paid through companies when they come to the uk. Companies that are not tax resident in the uk.

This is why Apple, Amazon, Starbucks etc etc get away with it because the money is paid to a foreign company.

I have worked many times in foreign countries but paid to my uk company and I would not be liable to tax to the country I worked in as a foreign temporary worker. It is why many people go to work in places like Saudi etc.

There is no obligation for anyone to pay income tax or corporation tax if the person or company is non uk resident.

Pay tax in the UK as a foreign entertainer or sportsperson

How to apply for a reduced rate of withholding tax, and work out the tax due on worldwide earnings.

www.gov.uk

 

[Anonymous]

I'm not a doctor.....I would imagine/hope all the major organs are looked at.

Why? When was the last time you had a scan for your gallbladder?

I went to my doctor with complaints and went through tests and they diagnosed correctly and it was resolved but they didn’t also send me for MRI scans just in case I might have cancer.

It isn’t feasible and it would have been the same outcome. People have gallbladder cancer for 15 years with no symptoms.

 

[Anonymous]

The offshore & tax shelter loopholes became a huge scandal & many celebrities got flack for it.

He performs in the UK, therefore he is liable for UK tax on at least that.

This isn’t about offshore loopholes.

This is about tax exile status and being non domicile. Has nothing to do with loopholes that you mention.

 

[NealCassidy]

But how could anyone know? In recent years he has dodged the question of where he lives, going for the 'citizen of the world' type answer. He has said that he lives in hotels and keeps most of his stuff in storage, he has also said that Lausanne is his 'first home'. He is rich enough to have multiple homes. How could any fan know his tax status?

Residence is different to domicile

 

[Anonymous]

I was upset when the black nurse expected me to get my dad's urine in a little kidney shaped bowl, instead of her. I was also upset when I constantly phoned a hospital miles from me trying to get updates and nobody ever answered.

Yes. This happened because she was black.

The NHS are busy, you fruitless ingrate. I had to take my 100 year old grandmother for a bowel movement, whilst she was under care. I didn’t want to and she didn’t want me to. ...but public healthcare workers are stretched to the teeth.

Black, brown, Asian or white isn’t the issue is it, you thankless little twat.

 

[Anonymous]

The idea that he is non uk domiciled is utter f***ing bollocks, are you a complete moron?

Don’t be dumb. He hasn’t been a tax resident here since la. All his old corporate structures all closed at that time. He can stay classed as non domicile provided he doesn’t stay here for more than 190 days or whatever the figure there abouts is.

Considering he spends his year split across Ireland, the US, the UK and Switzerland why would you think it is that unbelievable that he ensures he doesn’t exceed that limit?

Switzerland is a clue. It is a common practice amongst celebs that don’t have permanent homes here.

 

[Smithy09]

I don't see anyone being let down in this. Unless you detect gallbladder cancer years earlier survival is very slim and in this case even if they had noticed a year ago prognosis wouldn't have been great. Very low survival rates for that cancer.

It is usually always detected too late because people rarely know they have it until it is too late.

Unless she was paying to get full scans every 6 months privately when not ill then the outcome would likely have been the same. Even with early detection with this cancer the survival rate is only about 15% and this obviously wasn't detected early

Exactly.
Private healthcare does help in some aspects - may be the same treatment, but definitely faster. But mainly with regular, proactive checkups. It's the only way you can try to beat it.
I'm in my 30s and I see family, friends and acquaintances suffering, dying from and occasionally surviving cancer all the time, as of course everyone does. It's scary cos it can be indiscriminate, also affecting otherwise healthy ppl, rich or poor.
I believe in the NHS. And I wouldn't, for example, use private schools, due to my socialist principles.
But when talking about survival, I've seen reality, so I know that your chances of survival are improved with private healthcare. I have some basic level BUPA cover, that I'll hope to be able to increase for me and my wife as we get older.
If I was a millionaire like M then I'd pay for it for myself and my closest family, which for him was his elderly mother. Of course the NHS staff tried their best, but you have to be a total moron to not be aware that the NHS is under-resourced to cope with our ageing population as well as we'd like.