Morrissey Central "I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD" (August 23, 2020)

I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

“Following a stroke, her recovery was remarkable.
She had three extensive head-to-toe examinations by the NHS who could find nothing amiss.
Four days following the third all-clear examination I was told that my mother had three weeks to live.
Nine days later she had withered and died without any attempt by the NHS to save her life.
Once the NHS waves you off with paracetamol, get ready to meet your maker.
The official cause of my mother’s death was not the trendy and unquestionable “covid” - but, instead, cancer of the gallbladder … which had gone undetected by the NHS during their three thorough investigations.
How I wish to all gods that my mother had expressed no faith in the NHS.
She might still be alive today.”

Morrissey
23 August 2020.


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NealCassidy

FREE SPEECH
So a millionaire several times over and can pay for health care we can only dream of blames our nhs nurses and doctors. That’s the final nail for me.
as soon as he mentions BUPA the trolls will be popping up...hard to win isn't it
 

Ketamine Sun

A Most Misunderstood Member
So a millionaire several times over and can pay for health care we can only dream of blames our nhs nurses and doctors. That’s the final nail for me.

Assume he was obeying his mothers wishes. Could imagine him trying to persuade her to seek better medical care in past circumstances, but she wouldn’t have it. So maybe his hands were tied, and he did as she wished. Something to consider.
 
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Anonymous

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Assume he was obeying his mothers wishes. Could imagine him trying to persuade her to seek better medical care in past circumstances, but she wouldn’t have it. So maybe his hands were tied, and he did as she wished. Something to consider.

What has that go to do with slagging off the NHS? Mother's wishes aside I think the poster was unhappy that he had attacked the nurses and doctors in the NHS rather than what his mother's wishes were
 

ZanderMort

New Member
As an NHS worker and recently qualified mental health nurse I feel that Morrissey is venting/lashing out. He is grieving and it is apparent to most how dear his mother was to him. I do wonder though whether or not he encouraged his mother to go private and refuse NHS care, we will never know. I love the man and his music however I wish sometimes he would engage his cerebrum prior to opening his mouth.
 

Ketamine Sun

A Most Misunderstood Member
What has that go to do with slagging off the NHS? Mother's wishes aside I think the poster was unhappy that he had attacked the nurses and doctors in the NHS rather than what his mother's wishes were

Well, maybe you have or had a different relationship with your mother, but I don’t think Morrissey would ‘slag off’ his mothers wishes.

Also, he might wonder why the NHS didn’t do a check for any cancer related issues for her age, guess this isn’t common practice for the NHS? don’t know.
 

ZanderMort

New Member
Assume he was obeying his mothers wishes. Could imagine him trying to persuade her to seek better medical care in past circumstances, but she wouldn’t have it. So maybe his hands were tied, and he did as she wished. Something to consider.
I admire your positive take on things however please endeavor to pull your tongue out of M's @rse for one minute.
 

Ketamine Sun

A Most Misunderstood Member
As an NHS worker and recently qualified mental health nurse I feel that Morrissey is venting/lashing out. He is grieving and it is apparent to most how dear his mother was to him. I do wonder though whether or not he encouraged his mother to go private and refuse NHS care, we will never know. I love the man and his music however I wish sometimes he would engage his cerebrum prior to opening his mouth.

he does talk with his heart.

As said in a previous post of mine, I imagine he may have tried to persuade
her in past circumstances to seek private health care, but she wasn’t having it.
 

Radis Noir

By the thrice-beshitten shroud of Lazarus
Well, maybe you have or had a different relationship with your mother, but I don’t think Morrissey would ‘slag off’ his mothers wishes.

Also, he might wonder why the NHS didn’t do a check for any cancer related issues for her age, guess this isn’t common practice? don’t know.
Testing for cancer usually only takes place if there are specific symptoms that warrant such a test. The nature of gall bladder cancer is that symptoms often only appear very late, when the cancer is advanced and may have metastasised. Survival rates for gall bladder are poor at the best of times; if you are over 80 then they are very poor indeed.
 

Ketamine Sun

A Most Misunderstood Member
Testing for cancer usually only takes place if there are specific symptoms that warrant such a test. The nature of gall bladder cancer is that symptoms often only appear very late, when the cancer is advanced and may have metastasised. Survival rates for gall bladder are poor at the best of times; if you are over 80 then they are very poor indeed.

Yes true, but at her age, wouldn’t she be having check ups for cancer ?

That’s what I’m saying.
 
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Anonymous

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Well, maybe you have or had a different relationship with your mother, but I don’t think Morrissey would ‘slag off’ his mothers wishes.

Also, he might wonder why the NHS didn’t do a check for any cancer related issues for her age, guess this isn’t common practice for the NHS? don’t know.

I don't think it is common practice for any healthcare provider to send people for scans for cancer if they go in saying they have a symptom that is unrelated to a cancer symptom. They did also diagnose the cancer after more tests so it isn't as though they completely missed it.

Even with early detection of gallbladder cancer in a woman in her 80s the prognosis would never have been good, NHS or private. It has a 5%-10% survival rate and the survivors are in the under 50 age group.

It is very sad but venting out against doctors and nurses, who incidentally in the UK would probably be the same doctors in a private ward in the same hospital is a little ill thought out and unfair to those people who have been working constantly throughout this pandemic in environments which are high risk and without the correct equipment provided by an incompetent government.
 

Nerak

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I don't think it is common practice for any healthcare provider to send people for scans for cancer if they go in saying they have a symptom that is unrelated to a cancer symptom. They did also diagnose the cancer after more tests so it isn't as though they completely missed it.

Even with early detection of gallbladder cancer in a woman in her 80s the prognosis would never have been good, NHS or private. It has a 5%-10% survival rate and the survivors are in the under 50 age group.

It is very sad but venting out against doctors and nurses, who incidentally in the UK would probably be the same doctors in a private ward in the same hospital is a little ill thought out and unfair to those people who have been working constantly throughout this pandemic in environments which are high risk and without the correct equipment provided by an incompetent government.

Where did he vent against doctors & nurses? He mentioned examinations & treatment - all of which are subject to government funding & have suffered because of cuts.
 

Ketamine Sun

A Most Misunderstood Member
I don't think it is common practice for any healthcare provider to send people for scans for cancer if they go in saying they have a symptom that is unrelated to a cancer symptom. They did also diagnose the cancer after more tests so it isn't as though they completely missed it.

Even with early detection of gallbladder cancer in a woman in her 80s the prognosis would never have been good, NHS or private. It has a 5%-10% survival rate and the survivors are in the under 50 age group.

It is very sad but venting out against doctors and nurses, who incidentally in the UK would probably be the same doctors in a private ward in the same hospital is a little ill thought out and unfair to those people who have been working constantly throughout this pandemic in environments which are high risk and without the correct equipment provided by an incompetent government.

I don't think it is common practice for any healthcare provider to send people for scans for cancer if they go in saying they have a symptom that is unrelated to a cancer symptom.”

Yes, agree. I was saying or wondering, at her age wouldn’t there be check ups for things like this.


They did also diagnose the cancer after more tests so it isn't as though they completely missed it.

Yes, it seems in its late stages, a late diagnoses.


Even with early detection of gallbladder cancer in a woman in her 80s the prognosis would never have been good, NHS or private. It has a 5%-10% survival rate and the survivors are in the under 50 age group.”


Maybe you’re right. But there’s always a chance however small of survival, or in the very least, detecting it early enough, so they could at least try to fight it. But sadly, this wasn’t the case.


It is very sad but venting out against doctors and nurses, who incidentally in the UK would probably be the same doctors in a private ward in the same hospital is a little ill thought out and unfair to those people who have been working constantly throughout this pandemic in environments which are high risk and without the correct equipment provided by an incompetent government.”


Well, yes. Morrissey is speaking with his heart. Call it venting, or a part of the grieving process.
 
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Anonymous

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Yes true, but at her age, wouldn’t she be having check ups for cancer ?

That’s what I’m saying.

There are more than 200 cancers. I don't think the NHS or indeed any private doctor would check for all those cancers unless there was an inkling there were symptoms that could have related to cancer.

The over 70 population has doubled. To be proactively screening for 200 cancers every year or so in all those people wouldnt be feasible in the NHS and I doubt any private insurance policy would cover that either unless she was paying adhoc for scans frequently and I don't think anyone does that really.

The NHS does have screening programmes for various cancers but there isn't one for gallbladder cancer. For example when you hit 50 in the UK a screening kit for bowl cancer arrives through the door.

There is an element of patient action. I for example go to my GP twice or three times a year and ask for full blood screening and a PSA test. Many cancers will cause various counts in blood tests to be raised so if that happens when I get these tests I will discuss it with the doctor and will get repeat tests until things are showing within normal ranges. If they wouldnt return I would ask for a referral and further tests and if need be scans. Most GPs in the NHS will be open to this and mine has offered several times to send me for X-rays and scans to rule out lung cancer which is wasn't.

So part of the issue is people sit back and wait until there is a noticeable problem when they can actually go and get normal blood tests from their GP if they ask for it. In fact I don't even make an appointment with my GP, I make an appointment with the nurse for blood tests and then they call me if there is anything showing as abnormal and a doctor will then request repeat tests and discuss it with me.

People often die of these types of cancer with little notice because they are often asymptomatic and they can be undetected for years, 10-15 years.
 
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Anonymous

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Yes poor. But, there is a chance for survival.

unlikely for someone in their 80s. They may have been able to delay it with chemo etc and maybe then had a bit more time but many people in that age group chose not to go through that.

The worst group for gallbladder cancer in terms of mortality rates is women and women aged 80-85.

Survival rates in that age group are around 5% if detected years early and then that would involve fairly unpleasant treatment so there would be a question of quality of life and those treatments can introduce other issues for someone of that age.

Survivors are mostly under 50 and the preventability stats are 2%.
 
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Anonymous

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Where did he vent against doctors & nurses? He mentioned examinations & treatment - all of which are subject to government funding & have suffered because of cuts.

So stating that they sent her packing with paracetemol and stating in bold that they had failed to detect the cancer with three lots of tests is blaming the government?

No government cuts lead to doctors and nurses giving cancer patients paracetamol and there is no issue with cuts in the tests. There are cuts and issues with waiting lists and staff and bed shortages but when you go through tests the quality of the test isn't reduced because of government cuts. They will have the same quality of test as a private patient would have and more than likely the tests would go to the same lab in the hospital where the private ward exists.

So by saying the above he isn't criticising doctors and nurses?

A blood test checking blood cell counts isn't affected by government cuts.
 

Nerak

Reverse Ferret
I don't think it is common practice for any healthcare provider to send people for scans for cancer if they go in saying they have a symptom that is unrelated to a cancer symptom.”

Yes, agree. I was saying or wondering, at her age wouldn’t there be check ups for things like this.


They did also diagnose the cancer after more tests so it isn't as though they completely missed it.

Yes, it seems in its late stages, a late diagnoses.


Even with early detection of gallbladder cancer in a woman in her 80s the prognosis would never have been good, NHS or private. It has a 5%-10% survival rate and the survivors are in the under 50 age group.”


Maybe you’re right. But there’s always a chance however small of survival, or in the very least, detecting it early enough, so they could at least try to fight it. But sadly, this wasn’t the case.


It is very sad but venting out against doctors and nurses, who incidentally in the UK would probably be the same doctors in a private ward in the same hospital is a little ill thought out and unfair to those people who have been working constantly throughout this pandemic in environments which are high risk and without the correct equipment provided by an incompetent government.”


Well, yes. Morrissey is speaking with his heart. Call it venting, or a part of the grieving process.

Ket, he'll never stop. In 2 more posts he'll be in a doctor's office talking to a specialist in gallbladder cancer.

Escape!!!
 

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