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<blockquote data-quote="Aubrey McFate" data-source="post: 1987266422" data-attributes="member: 28572">I thought you said you were done responding to me?&nbsp; I suppose not.&nbsp; The idea that your traditions, values, and culture will get passed on through your children is absurd.&nbsp; Children inevitably grow into independent, self-functioning adults who can think for themselves.&nbsp; Granted, in former times and in different places, there was (and is) some truth to this—but it relies on things like heresy and apostasy being punishable by death.&nbsp; Contrariwise, when traditions and values have to justify themselves and survive in the public realm, as they are expected to in the West, then you simply can't buttress them with nothing but your bluster.&nbsp; Your children will invariably come to the knowledge that Dad has nothing but anger and insults.&nbsp; Visit virtually any Christian website (and kindly quit this one) and you will see that they are concerned with the continued decline in believers, and are constantly looking for ways to evangelize and retain young people in particular, who are leaving the Church in droves.&nbsp; Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are successfully picking them off.&nbsp; For pity's sake, even a vapid secular humanism is trouncing Christianity.&nbsp; As Donald Trump would say, &quot;sad!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aubrey McFate, post: 1987266422, member: 28572"] I thought you said you were done responding to me? I suppose not. The idea that your traditions, values, and culture will get passed on through your children is absurd. Children inevitably grow into independent, self-functioning adults who can think for themselves. Granted, in former times and in different places, there was (and is) some truth to this—but it relies on things like heresy and apostasy being punishable by death. Contrariwise, when traditions and values have to justify themselves and survive in the public realm, as they are expected to in the West, then you simply can't buttress them with nothing but your bluster. Your children will invariably come to the knowledge that Dad has nothing but anger and insults. Visit virtually any Christian website (and kindly quit this one) and you will see that they are concerned with the continued decline in believers, and are constantly looking for ways to evangelize and retain young people in particular, who are leaving the Church in droves. Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are successfully picking them off. For pity's sake, even a vapid secular humanism is trouncing Christianity. As Donald Trump would say, "sad!" [/QUOTE]

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