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davidt
on Sunday June 08 2003, @04:30PM
Post your info and reviews of "The Importance of Being Morrissey" aired on June 8, 2003 in the comments section below.
- "The Importance of Being Morrissey" full transciption (by a Yank) - June 15, 2003
- "The Importance of Being Morrissey" previews (10 total) - June 7, 2003
- "Return of the lone stranger" by Mark Simpson (The Guardian, May 31, 2003) - May 31, 2003
- Morrissey Channel 4 documentary details (to air June 8, 11:15pm) from Time Out, C4 - May 29, 2003
- Further Channel 4 documentary revelations (to be broadcast in June) in the Manchester Evening News - May 21, 2003
- Excerpt from Channel 4 documentary, from the Manchester Evening News (17th May) - May 19, 2003
The man (Score:0)
some thoughts (Score:3, Informative)
-brief chat between Moz and Deano!
-some nice pics of the band and Morrissey wandering around together
-a bit too much of Morrissey's friend James.
-Moz claims not to know what the word 'homo-erotic' means!
-bit before they enter stage at Albert Hall is amusing. Moz and band seem v nervous and shake each other's hands!
-Nancy Sinatra describes him as a great hugger!
-lots of Noel Gallagher and Bono; both quite funny
-some footage of the band meeting Oasis (Alain shaking Liam's hand!)
-Liam Gallagher says something like, "nice scooter Moz!"
-loads of Linder clips
-generally Moz comes across as pretty funny although wishing Mike Joyce the very worst for the rest of his life is probably the low point (they then played "beware I bear more grudges..."
-get to hear quite a lot of 'First of the gang' and the outro to 'Irish blood'
-Moz looks incredibly different in the different light, sometime young and gorgeous, other times less so!
-Joanne Rowling v keen that he gets a record deal!
-right it's bed-time for me. will leave it for others to fill in the gaps!
John Steed, England
I too wish the very very worst for Mike Joyce! (Score:1)
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The Importance of Being Morrissey (Score:1)
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channel 4 documentry (Score:1)
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He drives a very nice car... (Score:0)
It's a pity the actual interview footage of Morrissey didn't take up the whole of the running time and too much was given to people's comments about him. While some of this was interesting and added to the documentary (Bono, Gallagher, Self) some of it wasn't (Sawyer, Rowling).
The light hasn't gone out (Score:1)
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The king is not dead (Score:1)
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The Importance... (Score:1)
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What do you expect? (Score:0)
It was summed up well - Moz doesn't know anything more than the rest of us about his personality, it is there to see.
It's there in the music, most of all.
What more do you want?!
- Fallon
The Impotence of being morrissey [sic] (Score:0)
Hmmm (Score:0)
Guess so...
Anyone kind enough to stream it? (Score:0)
how can i see this? (Score:0)
niko
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His Royal Highness Speaks to camera...along with (Score:4, Funny)
JK Rowling laughing hysterically at something HE said in a 'Smash Hits' interview in the 80's that wasn't very funny - something about going back to bed after making a cup of tea - and she still has a penchant for odious bacon rashers after being a Smiths fan for over 20 years!
Miranda Sawyer - "It's men! It's always men who fall in love with Morrissey - not women!"
U2 lead singer, Bongo managed not to make an arse of himself for once talking about Morrissey and his songs, but methinks he was reading off an autocue - he's never sounded this coherent before in his life.
Linder Sterling was wonderfully serene. She came across as genuine, radiant and discreet, no wonder she's his best friend! In fact this would have been a much better documentary had it been Linder's indepth and private views on the man himself - but that would have been too risky and a bit dangerous I would say.
Will Self offered his usual high brow analysis which will require me to rewind the video tape and absorb his erudite thoughts on all things relating to Morrissey. Though he did say he spent more than two hours in conversation with him once and discovered he liked watching 'Coronation Street' regularly. Our Moz doesn't give much away - would be the general consensus from this lot, including Alan Bennett.
James O'Brien is LYING when he says Morrissey is a stranger to intimacy and relationships - he's obviously getting a back hander for saying that or a free signed copy of the forthcoming CD or indeed something else! YOU must smell a rat when pararmours like Jake Walters and Murray Chambers are not mentioned at all!
MORRISSEY lies as he tries to dupe us into thinking he's all on his own-ee-o with just his huskie dog for company in the house Clark Gable built. "Oh Poor Lonely Me," he is saying - "Buy my records and my back catalogue and you're in with a chance - still not married yet. Roll up! Knock on my door! Love me, buy my records".
Part of me really does not want to believe this, but if this is true, then it truly is the height of cynicism, and Morrissey is just as corrupt and devious as the music industry he so despises!
There was excellent footage from concerts in the early 90's, including a fascinating clip with David Bowie on stage. His royal highness dips the knife in salt before sticking it into Bowie. And why not? Always knew Bowie was a strange dangerous little man indeed.
Overall Morrissey came across as over confident, arrogant, aloof, and grimaced a lot. It is clear to see he is not a genuinely happy person, but tries to put a brave face on every day of his life. He is probably a lonely old soul but who isn't? He was at his most genuine in the footage where he is wearing a denim jacket and specs. When he is this vulnerable you know he is speaking the truth!
It was very brave of him to talk about his depression, and he goes on to express how cynical he is about people's motives for befriending him. He only unmasks himself to a few people - Linder Michael Bracewell and James O Brien it would seem.
Before seeing the documentary tonight I saw a footage again of The Smiths first appearance on Top Of The Pops - it was quite striking what a splendid set of gnashers HE possessed twenty years ago - what has happened to his teeth? They're not aligned correctly. Was he in a bar room brawl are something. Don't say it is age, plenty of people keep their own teeth well into their 60's.
At the beginning there was some very old footage, home movie style of Mozzy as a boy. Very brief so you're not missing anything much. No reference to his parents or sister, BUT some sweet footage of his very healthy looking nephews.
The photography and editing were very good indeed, but part of me wished I never saw it. His feet after all are made of clay and they crumbled before my very eyes. Sadly he is not aging very well, and is not the dashing icon he used to be in his 20's. God Bless the old bugger - hope he finds happiness eventually!
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The doc will be on Kazaa for free in an hour or so (Score:0)
kiss her full on the mouth (Score:1)
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Thought it was ok (Score:0)
Pay Per View (Score:1)
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It was good but..................... (Score:0)
Documentary now available for download on Kazaa! (Score:2, Informative)
Size - 201MB
Keywords - Morrissey The Smiths Nancy Sinatra Will Self Kathy Burke Alan Bennett Noel Gallagher Chrissie Hynde
Original file was just under 1GB, so video and audio have both been compressed heavily for the sake of getting it out there. A much smaller file will be available on Kazaa tomorrow night for 56k users (probably divided into 4 parts).
I'm going to reimport the original DV copy to my desktop via a firewire connection later in the week, so those looking for a top notch copy for free will have to wait until then. If you pay for it, you're a mug.
Enjoy!
An Hour Wasn't Enough! (Score:0)
any fan interviews? (Score:1)
I was interviewed during the Australian tour and was wondering if any Aussie footage made it into the program?
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Documentary Avail. From Newsgroup (Score:1)
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I loved it (Score:1)
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Damn (Score:1)
Its 9:30 pm,Sunday and I was so excited. If anyone can be sweet enough to give some info on where I can get a copy of this interview, I'd appreciate it. Thanx
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help! (Score:0)
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Woof Woof (Score:0)
you bunch of moaning dickheads (Score:1)
It was a truly entertaining documentary; Morrissey was funny and genuine. You lot are a bunch of moaning fucks who want too much from him. If he was a complete media whore and showed too much he wouldn't be the artist he is. Morrissey is a true Aesthete, comparable, as the doc. said, to Francis Bacon in his realisation of true eccentricity. The artistic expression of sexual confusion and how fucking depressing it is being surrounded by this gruesome animal, the 'human being'.
Full marks to the programme makers. And you lot, stop whingeing for Christ's sake.
Love
Damian Morgan (Stretford boy, born and dread)
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on the docu. (Score:1)
i watched , it taped it and watched it again straight away!!
got to bed at 1.30 am only to have to get up at 6am but it WAS well worth it.
loads of rare stuff in the docu, and very well executed by channel 4 i might add.
best clip for me was a rare studio / demo recording of nowhere fast.
best celeb quote from actress 'kathy burke' -''u should always be wary of the quiet ones, they are the worst - i bet he's a really dirty bastard!''
best Mozz quote ''i love mexican people , they have great hair, great skin and great teeth.........
this week there is a reason for living in england.
i knew one would exist sometime.
Great documentary!
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dvds (Score:0)
email, [email protected]
Morrissey's Dog (Score:0)
Bitter Pill (Score:1)
like a bit of a bitter old man. He still fights for the right side and I still love his music
but i find him quite loathsome. I would cross the road to avoid him!
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hairdresser on fire! (Score:1)
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ahhhh (Score:0)
although im kind of glad i am not going to see him withering into old age..
Nice but dim (Score:1)
it's a bit pathetic that all the talking heads (Bono etc.) were people that Moz has said nice things about other the years; it would have been funnier and better if they'd got David Bowie or Elton John to add their two penneth worth.
It was just one long Moz love-fest. still the best doc on him I've seen, though.
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Arrogant twats! (Score:1)
I really can't believe the arrogance of some of the people above. For Christ's sake, this documentary was not created exclusively for you, you know.
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!!EBAY Importance Of Being Morrissey!! (Score:1)
I've taped the Channel 4 show last night and even cut the adverts out!!! Please Bid
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Nothing about a foriegn war on channel 4 last night!
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Contradictions (Score:0)
Here's two...
1) james o brien talking about "the phone calls at 1am". later, Moz - "I never use the phone"
2) miranda wonkygob sawyer - "women don't fancy morrissey" (bullshit!). later, kathy burke "he's really sexy".
anymore???
Arrogant twats! (Score:1)
I really can't believe the arrogance of some of the people above. For Christ's sake, this documentary was not created exclusively for you, you know.
I'm sure a great many people (non-Morrissey fans included) learned a hell of a lot about The Man from this documentary. Just because there was nothing ground breaking, you have the audacity to complain! Do you really think Channel 4 are gonna gear this programme exclusively at hardcore, obsessive fans who know everything there is to know about Moz?
Well I've got news for you - you already know everything you are ever going to know about Morrissey, so if you are on some quest to know the man inside out, I suggest you give up.
I must say, I really enjoyed the programme. Moz came across as being very human, very relaxed. And his recent comment about thanking God every day for not having a Manchester accent... Um, Moz's Manchester accent really came through, in this documentary!
And not that it matters, but he looks great as he gets older. The greying hair looks fantastic, and you can see the guy looks really healthy.
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Dave Bowie (Score:0)
I am not a huge fan of Bowie (he makes me cringe a bit to be honest) but I am not sure this is really on. Just cos Mozzer has stopped being friends with him it doesn't mean his importance to music has changed. I think its very shortsighted.
Why so negative? (Score:1)
As for offering nothing new at least be grateful he is receiving the exposure he deserves at the moment, all this press and all the TV guides picking up on the documentary can only help to return him to where he belongs.
While the opinions of J K Rowling, Bono etc offer little to those who are already fans it can only help to endear him to a new generation of fans.
There was the first new interview footage for a long time, a new album is on the way and finally the press seem able to say they like Morrissey again. Stop complaining and get behind him.
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The importance.. (Score:1)
Noel was bloody spot on with the current state of the music world.
After watching the doc i realised i just lovesd Moz even more,god bless you Morrissey just you do whatever the fuck you want to do.
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Fair Enough (Score:0)
I knew every face on the program except O'Brien's. What's the background on him? I had him in mind as being a director of the Introducing Morrissey vid but I may be and often am, very wrong.
kinda ok (Score:0)
one thing that really gets on my tits is this constant meat bullshit. for someone who deals so little in the 'political' i hate his fascination with all things meat. that alienates me but i suppose it is his own opinion and one he is entitled to.
one funny thing - when the unseen footage of him as a kid came up - did anyone see the quick 1/2 second shot of what i can only assume was his dad! talk about a spitting image of moz now.
also, that irish twang is slowly getting the better of him.
i have not seen a great deal of footage of moz talking but he did not appear to me to be the most intelligent of chaps - by no means thick, don't get me wrong, just not the intellectual i believed he is. just my opinion.
also, that bit with nancy was just cringeworthy. why does he entertain such people???
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Best quote (Score:1)
Morrissey (scowling): The Queen's tattoo?
Nancy: It was for her celebration.
Moz: Any good? (shaking his head)
Nancy: It was fabulous!
Moz: Oh, it was fabulous? I didn't know The Queen had a tattoo!
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Nancy Sinatra makes faux pas (Score:1)
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Moz and Nancy (Score:1)
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Welllllll..... (Score:1)
GD
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i was shocked and ashamed to discover (Score:1)
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