posted by davidt on Tuesday August 20 2002, @08:00AM
Morrissey_81 writes:

Hi...
Just wanted to let everyone know that you can find the new songs at http://www.longmayitlast.com. they are really great songs, so check them out! Click on "tour details" and you will find them...

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Another Michael also writes:

Hey, All! You can download the new songs at my friend Nicole's new humble site... She's been tring to post these songs for 4 days now, but had to wait on getting a bigger site. Well it's finally here, take a look.
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The songs are also available for download at Ambitious-Outsiders.com (currently going through some growing pains.)
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  • Thanx for sharing, Nicole ;^)

    cheers

    Jay
    I'm really just Some Totally Random Moz Fan
  • Big thanks to Toni for the early morning scoop! She's da' best! :D
    alainsane -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @09:12AM (#36971)
    (User #460 Info)
  • anyone else agree that FOTGTD is the best of the bunch? maybe its just cause it hits close to home(especially if you live in so cal). i'd like to see this released as a single(that of course no one but us fan would buy). ILY has grown on me and i still haven't made up my mind on the other 2 but for the time being, i'm still trying to pick up my jaw off the ground cause of FOTGTD.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @09:13AM (#36972)
  • coincidently I also put the tracks online at my webspace:
    http://users.pandora.be/alf/Morrissey.htm

    just to let you know ...
    Vincent <[email protected]> -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @09:37AM (#36976)
    (User #1110 Info | http://www.theworldwilllisten.be/)
    Don't rake up my mistakes, I know exactly what they are!
  • Is a terrific song. Back to form for the 43 year old chap! Juxtaposing a cautionary, dour message with a catchy, uplifting tempo. Classic Moz!
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:21AM (#36994)
  • I haven't been this excited about new music of any kind in quite some time. I really think all 4 of the songs are brilliant and beautiful.
    When, oh when will there be an album!!!???!!!
    Leigh
    Rockabilleigh -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:42AM (#36998)
    (User #1007 Info)
  • Truly Wonderful (Score:1, Informative)

    The new songs are all very good. I love The World is Full of Crashing Bores! If you go to longmayitlast.com and download the songs there is also cover art. The front cover is done very nicely. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Morrissey font that was used that resembles Bona Drag. Please post here.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:54AM (#37000)
  • I'm not impressed. After 5 years , you would think he could come up with something a tad more substantial. 'First of the Gang To Die' reads like an outtake from 'Southpaw Grammar' - more laddish - east London twonk.
    sparacus -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:58AM (#37002)
    (User #4409 Info)
  • I wuld say I LIKE YOU is the best song out of the 4. Lyrically and Vocally , music wise isnt that great butoverall the better of the bunch ;)
    sneaky_morrissey -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @12:48PM (#37013)
    (User #5771 Info | http://www.angelfire.com/goth/sir)
  • (the song that is, not the country)
    no-one seems to be mentioning it.
    cheers.
    john steed
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @01:34PM (#37018)
  • Just wanted to let everyone know that the new songs are also available on Kazaa, just search for "Morrissey-(new)" and you should be able to DL them from me, in case the other sites get slower throughout the day. Please share them if you have Broadband...it'll make all the downloads faster if there are multiple users sharing the same files. Thanks and good luck...see you in Vegas.
                                                            -Javier
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @01:35PM (#37019)
  • OMG i loved these new songs. especially the Mexico song. and your right the world is so full of crashing bores!!! fuck em all!
    ToolArmy -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @02:15PM (#37031)
    (User #5193 Info)
    I'm just a sweet and tender hooligan
  • i think 'bores' is the best, the way the vocal sweeps soulfully out of the almost awkward stacatto guitar riff gave me the old shivers, but the best news is that they are all great songs in a world where del amitri still make records, frightening.
    disappointed -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @04:33PM (#37045)
    (User #3682 Info)
  • if i owned a record company, i would sign moz and released these songs viva morrissey!!!!!!
    bobomoz -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @04:41PM (#37047)
    (User #1976 Info)
    hang the DJ!
  • To be honest for me the dury is still out until I hear these new tracks on record, as although the vocal is fine on each track the guitars tend to grind and add very little to the song. Now I do love Boz and Alain and admire their first 3 albums with Moz and half of their last but I still feel Morrissey could benifit from a Marr,Reilly,Butler,Shileds etc to spice the tracks up and lead him back to his glory days or at least a new record deal. There is nothing wrong with these tracks really it is just they don't make my heart skip like This Charming Man,Well I Wonder,There Is A Light,Will Never Marry,I Know Very Well etc, yes they have a solid rock backround but to me this is half the problem.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @06:09PM (#37055)
  • 5 years (Score:2, Insightful)

    It's been nearly 5 years since I first discovered The Smiths/Morrissey, just after my 16th birthday. Due to that fact, I've yet to experience the excitement of rushing into the nearest record shop to buy a new Morrissey single/album. Sadly, after hearing the latest efforts I don't think I ever will have that experience...

    I must admit I've never really liked "The Lads" collaborations, except for a handful of songs, and I suppose the main reason I come to this site is to hopefully read that Morrissey is working with new/old collaborators. I think I've finally realised that it's not going to happen.

    The 4 new songs, to me, are just very, very ordinary or bland to be blunt. The music and vocal just plods along, there's nothing there to grip you at all. What happened to the waspish, urgent Morrissey of "Bigmouth Strikes Again"? He seems to have turned into a "ballad master".

    I think Morrissey is afraid to leave Boorer & co, just as he was when Johnny left the Smiths and he tried to carry on with Ivor Perry. However if he doesn't I can only see him churning songs out "like sausages", which he vowed never to do. I still rate Morrissey as a lyricist, but he's wasting his talent with boring musicians.

    I'll keep one eye open for Morrissey, to see if he does do anything remotely interesting in the near future, but I think it's now time to move on for me...
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @07:00PM (#37059)
    • Re:5 years by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday August 21 2002, @12:06AM
    • Re:5 years by disappointed (Score:1) Wednesday August 21 2002, @03:31AM
    • 15 years by Rico (Score:1) Wednesday August 21 2002, @06:52AM
    • Re:5 years by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday August 21 2002, @12:15PM
    • Completely agree with you by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday August 23 2002, @01:36PM
  • I don't know why people think it has to be so. I know better. Not to be an ingrate for the posting of the songs (because they're mostly terrific) but the 192 bitrate version of "Mexico" is horribly, awfully, insufferably rendered in its lossy MP3 format. In Windows Media Player, the artifacts sound like drop out spots. In Music Match, they sound like little squawks.

    I'm very surprised that after the whole of this day (and 20 Gbytes of downloading), no one has noted as much. The problems that occur throughout make this wonderful song quite unlistenable. Thank God there was at least a 160 Kbps version on Ambitious Outsiders that lacked those artifacts.

    Please, please, please...whoever the MP3 authors are...I beg you to listen to MexicoHigh192 and do whatever's possible to post a version sans the annoying artifacts.
    alainsane -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @08:09PM (#37064)
    (User #460 Info)
  • So how does Moz feel about all this file sharing? Has he ever commented on the subject?

    He's only played the new songs a handful of times, but now practically every net-savvy Morrissey fan out there has the tracks. Could this hurt sales of the next single when released... assuming these tracks may comprise it?
    Transmission_NYC <[email protected]> -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @12:49AM (#37086)
    (User #5364 Info | http://www.transmissionspace.com/sound.html)
    "This world may lack style, I know..."
  • We have 4 good new songs for the first time in 5 years. Just remember how great that is!!!
    I've been listening to nothing else since I've got them (about 36 hours ago). Such melodies, such clever phrasings...
    The Moz is back!
    And he is here to stay!!
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @08:41AM (#37113)
  • I cant get any of these songs to download...they keep quitting on me after like 20 seconds. And Im not finding the new stuff on Kazaa, either.

    Somebody help?
    Popstar in a Coma -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @09:35AM (#37118)
    (User #548 Info)
  • Medicroe at best (Score:2, Insightful)

    I got to say the new song just are not that great. I have been a Morrissey fan for 16 years and love almost everything he has produced. I'm sure these songs will sound better on record, but they still lack fire.

    The lyrics to the new songs remind me of the Kill Uncle days. The are plain and boring. Actually I think Kill Uncle songs are better by far, and thats saying alot. "I Like You" is the only listenable song, but the title needs work (very unimagitive).

    I can understand why Morriseey new fan base seems to think these songs are great because they are Latino themed. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it my opinion if he was going to do that he should have changed the music up to Latino themed also. A good example of what would have been better is something like the "Lazy Sunbathers" music or like Chris Isack's "Baja Sessions".

    If you are going to change you style, change it all out. The lyrics deal with new subject matter, so change the music and make it new also. It is the same old riffs I heard since 1996.

    I'm alittle disappointed with these songs, but Morrissey playing old "Viva" material makes up for it. Also I hope he brings back "Please Let Me Get What I Want" to the setlist. Seems he only played it the first night.
    nobody's nothing -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @10:00AM (#37121)
    (User #264 Info)
    Morrissey and the Detroit Lions! A match made in heaven!
  • Would someone please help me find where I can get the Bona Drag style font, not Moz handwriting.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @11:40AM (#37135)
  • 1) Firstly, I think That "The First of the Gang to Die" sounds fabulous. I honestly think that, if it were released as a single in finished form, it would be the strongest single since the Viva Hate era. the only contender in terms of mass popularity would be "the More You...", and I think this is stronger.
    2) You really can't tell that much from these live versions. It seems to me that positives are far more important than negatives here. Wonderful as Moz is live, recrded live versions of his songs are normally notably inferior to the recorded versions. It seems to me that the melodies and lyrics on these songs have a tremendous amount of potential in the right setting. Speaking as a long time fan, I am extremely encouraged by 3 of these songs (ILY, TWIFOCB and TFOTGTD - nice acronyms!) and the sound quality on M (ha!) makes it hard for me to make a judgement. Good things lie ahead. Keep the faith.
    danbutt -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @05:12PM (#37180)
    (User #88 Info)
  • Steven Patrick Morrissey
    Your songs are very beautiful.
    The gap between the songs and lylic is very humours, but two blended very well.
    I think just this 4 songs are miracle.
    Your voice get clear and I can't find words to explain.
    I'm just in awe. It's not the entertaiment.
    I think this is the art. To think what is this?
    Like pictures? bleeze? bird sing?
    I can tell this is something not exist in here.
    Anonymous -- Thursday August 22 2002, @05:21AM (#37232)
  • where do i get my copy?
    Johnny Marr -- Thursday August 22 2002, @08:19AM (#37245)
    (User #1113 Info)
    Going Underground
  • I read some critical notes here and must agree in a way after 6 years of waiting and still no album. The first of the gang... and The world is full... are Morrissey on his best. I hope one of these would be his new single?! The mexico song and I like you are for me typical B-sides. Morrissey is much too clever to sing 4 new albumtracks and dig his own grave whit potential record labels. I've read the phoenix review here and felt a strong sense that he's testing the songs with questions like;'Do you like this song'. He's waiting to see which way the wind blows and wants us too choose. But please, hurry up we're getting restless and criminal.
    Anonymous -- Thursday August 22 2002, @09:18AM (#37252)
  • Thanks for the mp3s.
    Slightly o/t, but after hearing The world is...
    and knowing Morrissey isn't exactly shy of the old literary reference - is perhaps crashing bores inspired by???:
    Wiliam Golding:
    "Marx, Darwin and Freud are the three most crashing bores of the Western World. Simplistic popularization of their ideas has thrust our world into a mental straitjacket from which we can only escape by the most anarchic violence."
    regards,
    FWD
    Famous when dead -- Saturday August 24 2002, @02:08AM (#37491)
    (User #981 Info)
    Some of us is turning nasty
  • Morrissey's loyalty to his band is honorable and very touching, but it's dragging him towards impending obscurity. It brings to mind his response to the question about one of his worst traits, being "unlimited self-sabotage". I feel bad saying this about the band, Alain and Boz have done some fantastic stuff, Vauxhall & I and Your Arsenal are incredible albums - musically as well as vocally/lyrically, and I really think those two albums can sit proudly with the best Morrissey has done with anyone else, be it the Smiths or his work with Stephen Street. But all good things come to an end, relationships run their course, and it pains me that he doesn't seem to see that musically, things with the Lads have run their course and it's time to move on, in fact I think it was time to move on quite some time ago. Alain and Boz are very competent musicians (although as much as I like him I don't think I could say the same of Gary; I haven't heard Dean yet so I don't know about him). But the problem is that they are utterly lacking in originality and real style (although to be fair this may not be the case when they are in their own element doing rockabilly etc). Sure they're good, but that's just not good enough - Morrissey is absolutely brilliant, he is one of the best singers in the world in my opinion, and he really deserves better. He is so special, and the people he writes songs with should be special too. It is such a sad and frustrating waste of his talent to work with inferior people. That sounds horrible I know, and I really hate to say it, the boys seem so nice, and it's obvious they appreciate Morrissey. But I'm sorry, it has to be said. Why do you think no one had ever heard of any of them before, why do you think they are ignored by the world? It's because they're just not that great. They've been involved in numerous other projects before and during their association with Morrissey, and they have all amounted to nothing, they obviously love music and enjoy everything they do, but there is a reason they've never made a name for themselves - they just aren't in the same league as Morrissey, and I think that's obvious to everyone in the world apart from the man himself. Or maybe he does know, but he doesn't know what to do about it, who knows. I don't know who he should write with, but he is a genius, and he deserves to work with people of his caliber, how can we expect him to produce the groundbreaking, amazing, beautiful, classic songs we know he is capable of if he has average musicians writing the music? That's asking for a miracle, why make things so difficult for himself? He's being massively handicapped and held back by their limitations, and when I see people write him off and say he's past his best, it nearly brings tears to my eyes, because they're wrong, he just can't do this to the best of his ability with the music he's being given. How can we expect him to be truly inspired? There will never be another singer like him, yet his band are mediocre, it's crazy really and I can't for the life of me understand why it has gone on for so long. Yes Moz seems to really like and appreciate the Lads, but they're obviously not that close, they don't even travel together, and he never names any of them among his friends. They are not his equals, and he must realise that, so why not work with people who are at least close to his level of talent and ability? There are many wonderful, talented, original musicians in the world, and I can't believe that almost any of them wouldn't be thrilled to work with him.
    Thank god he is good enough to do as well as he has within the limitations of his co-songwriters, but I think we all know how much more he's capable of, and I just hope that one day this dawns on him and he decides to grab the bull by the horns and go out and find some musicians who can keep up with him and inspire him the way I don't think anyone really has since Johnny.
    To think that one of the finest singers in history, who still has as much talent as he ever did could write a song called 'Now I Am A Was' j
    Anonymous -- Sunday August 25 2002, @06:03PM (#37617)
  • Morrissey 81 is not a common theif... I asked her to post these songs, I also gave them to Ambitious Outsiders and Mrs. Shankly's...

    Perhaps... Vincent, has a different source. I don't know, I don't know him.

    But, please don't hurt the innocent, Michael
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:35AM (#36997)
  • I really think she is above this kind of slander...
    You must not know her, She is nothing but nice..
    concerned about all this rudeness, Michael
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @12:03PM (#37003)
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  • So if i copy this site and put it up as moz-only.com, you are saying it won't be stealing????

    no posting things that are already there is copying. That's the entire basis of the word.

    posting things and not giving credit to vincent is wrong. That is stealing.

    stealing is wrong. wrong wrong wrong wrong.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @12:12PM (#37005)
  • All credit goes to Michael and Morrissey 81!!!!!

    I just uploaded them to help some people out, think there's a bit of a misunderstanding ;)

    see my following comment!
    Vincent <[email protected]> -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @12:30PM (#37008)
    (User #1110 Info | http://www.theworldwilllisten.be/)
    Don't rake up my mistakes, I know exactly what they are!
  • I don't know who you are ... but stop playing this silly game MR/MS ANONYMOUS!!
    Vincent <[email protected]> -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @03:20AM (#37091)
    (User #1110 Info | http://www.theworldwilllisten.be/)
    Don't rake up my mistakes, I know exactly what they are!
  • That's not nice. Nicole is a great girl. She is very nice and sweet. Whover id doing this please stop. But if i had to reply, i choose Lurky.

    what does everyone else think?
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @07:49AM (#37110)
  • You're obviously an idiot with no sense.
    ladymoz -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @06:33PM (#37186)
    (User #154 Info)
  • or a sence with no idiot.....

    coincidently like ladymoz
    Anonymous -- Monday August 26 2002, @12:26PM (#37689)
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