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davidt
on Monday March 27 2006, @11:00AM
Old Mathew writes:
Morrissey is boycotting Canada on his current tour. From True to You, a Statement from Morrissey: Statement from Morrissey - true-to-you.net "We will not include any Canadian dates on our world tour to promote our new album. This is in protest against the barbaric slaughter of over 325,000 baby seals which is now underway. I fully realise that the absence of any Morrissey concerts in Canada is unlikely to bring the Canadian economy to its knees, but it is our small protest against this horrific slaughter - which is the largest slaughter of marine animal species found anywhere on the planet. The Canadian Prime Minister says the so-called "cull" is economically and environmentally justified, but this is untrue. The seal population has looked after itself for thousand of years without human intervention, and, as the world knows, this slaughter is about one thing only: making money. The Canadian government will stream all of the pelts into the fashion industry and this is the reason why the baby seals are killed with spiked clubs that crush their skulls - any damage to their pelts is avoided. The Canadian Prime Minister also states that the slaughter is necessary because it provides jobs for local communities, but this is an ignorant reason for allowing such barbaric and cruel slaughter of beings that are denied life simply because somebody somewhere might want to wear their skin. Construction of German gas chambers also provided work for someone - this is not a moral or sound reason for allowing suffering. If you can, please boycott Canadian goods. It WILL make a difference. As things stand, Canada has placed itself alongside China as the cruelest and most self-serving nation." --- Belligerent Ghoul also sends the link: Morrissey boycotts Canada - NME.com He won't be going there on tour in protest over 'horrific slaughter'
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thanks moz (Score:0)
forget buying the cd tomorrow. this canuck is downloading it.
cunt.
Will Moz also boycott Italy? (Score:0)
seal killing (Score:1)
(User #15541 Info)
Moz doesn't play Canada anyways.... (Score:0)
Boycott Support (Score:1)
(User #16025 Info)
houston... (Score:2, Insightful)
i wonder what his BEEF is with Houston...
where is that press release?
(User #152 Info | http://worldofabrahan.com/)
what were your ancestors doing Moz.... (Score:0)
Rather than boycotting (Score:0)
I do applaud him for making a stand, but I do think there is probably a better way: as an earlier poster pointed out, the only ones who are going to suffer from his boycott are his candian fans.
Punishing his Canadian fans (Score:1)
Going along with this logic, with Morrissey's views on the involvement of the USA and UK in the Middle East, shouldn't he also boycott those countries? Shouldn't he also punish his American and British fans for the actions of their government, whether they agree with them or not?
Fortunately i'll be seeing him in the UK shortly, and will probably travel to the American North East coast if he plays there. But many fans i know around here can't afford to do that and are very disappointed.
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Oh please... (Score:1)
(User #2801 Info)
he does play canada (Score:0)
vegeterian are stupid (Score:1)
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Witness (Score:1)
It is an absolute, unforgettable horror.
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Why not try to meet PM Harper? (Score:0)
lol oh nooooooo we'll miss you (not) (Score:0)
So stay with your bunch of arse-licking clean-living tossers in your little rich man's dream world, I'm quite happy with the seal killers myself.
You won't make any difference giving the whole world lessons on how to live, you and any of your kind who never worked a day in their lives.
If you're so desperate to see that aspect of the Canadian economy change,why don't you go and inject your album money in some non barbaric business activity in that part of the country? That MIGHT make a difference.
But if not, just shut it. You're making a fool of yourself.The world doesn't need to hear your Gucci preaching.What have you ever done to make a difference to anything in the real world anyway?
Have a nice little non Canadian tour.
Viva Turkey.
Oh, and if you ever see Paulo, tell him to shut it too.
media WHORE (Score:0)
la la la la la la......interesting drug (Score:1)
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Sign a Petition (Score:1)
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Morrissey, please reconsider! (Score:0)
Punish a loyal 20 year Canadian fan? WTF MOZ? (Score:1)
I will be boycotting Morrissey and all his products from now on until he ends his Canadian boycott.
Morrissey, you have lost a fan.
Sincerely,
Steve Bates
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This is pretty dumb of Moz. (Score:0)
here we go again. with the trolls (Score:1)
The only city morrissey ever plays is Toronto...so just suck it up and go to Detroit, Buffalo, or wherever else in the US that is relativley close (so you may have to drive 5 hours...tough.)
and for those who hold different values...then just accept morrissey isn't an animal hating, gun toting maniac like most are in canada. DIfferent Values i guess for different folks (i'm not saying the US is any better with the animal killing...but baby seal hunting is a current cause with much hype around it).
I mean, it's ridiculous to return his CD because of this. If you are a fan of morrissey then you know his values. and if you don't live close by to Toronto, then he wasn't going to come to your area anyways. So he exchanged a Toronto show for a chance to make a statement. how much the statement matters is up for opinion and doesn't matter--it's his to make.
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Money changes everything........ (Score:0)
As a result, the Canadian government reduced quotas for seal hunting to as low as 15,000 annually - mainly for meat and local handicraft. But with fur again in fashion, the hunt is back.
Canada increased the quotas last year, allowing a million seals to be killed over the space of three years.
Money changes Everything......Morrissey is holding with his morals
Punishing fans is not going to change a Damn thing (Score:1)
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We support the cause and look what we get.... (Score:0)
im going to boycott hockey (Score:0)
Boycott = vital publicity (Score:1)
Anyways, my point being that Morrissey has always had his heart in the right place, but being 100% ethical in this world is nigh on impossible without retiring to a cave and wearing sackcloth. Therefore, he does what he can when he sees that it will have the most impact. I know his Canadian fans are disappointed over this, and who can blame some for severing their links with him. But this is the sort of thing that goes hand in hand with being a Morrissey fan, and it always has done, so it surprises me that people are outraged and/or vitriolic over his decision. I would be mightily annoyed if I were a Canadian fan, but not at Morrissey; I'd pick up my pen and petition the government, because I share the values of the entertainer I adore.
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Nice shoes (Score:0)
Morrissey has now left the building....
If you are Norwegian......stay very still (Score:0)
Waaaah boo hoo (Score:0)
Waaaah, boo hoo, Daddy doesn't agree with all of my political views. He has his own views and priorities. I thought he was just like me.
Waaaah, boo hoo, I don't love Daddy anymore.
ignorance (Score:0)
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Get off if Moz, you are not Bono! (Score:1)
The fact is, if it were Bono from U2 doing this, it might do something, but this is Morrrissey, whose enire 1991 Kill Uncle Canadian album sales amounted to just over 10,000 cds sold - A DROP IN THE BUCKET at best!
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Morrissey Boycotts Toronto (Score:0)
Merrilea-Toronto
P.M.'s Comments (Score:1)
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Boycott the US! Boycott the EU!! (Score:0)
Capital Punishment is Murder (even if it is only American Meat)!!!
Abortion is Murder! Boycott the EU!!!
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NL Premier's letter to the IFAW (Score:1)
March 8, 2006
Mr. Fred O’Regan, President
International Fund for Animal Welfare
c/o [email protected]
Dear Mr. O’Regan:
Though you chose to send a letter to me publicly rather than actually sending it directly to me personally or to my office, I feel compelled to respond to some of the issues raised in your letter. There are many, many inaccuracies in the public domain on the seal harvest that I have and will continue to refute, however, for the purposes of this letter I will address the specific items raised in your public letter.
You state: "…not a single reputable "expert" or "veterinary group" that has observed the hunt and called it humane."
First of all, the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association found that 98 percent of seals are killed in an acceptably humane manner (Sept. 2002 report).
Also, a report, funded by the World Wildlife Fund, by an independent veterinarians working group August 2005 made the following statement: "… the Canadian harp seal hunt is professional and highly regulated by comparison with seal hunts in Greenland and the North Atlantic. It has the potential to serve as a model to improve humane practice and reduce seal suffering within the other hunts."
I would also like to point out that this report makes the following commentary, which logically directly links to the spread of inaccurate and misleading information by organizations like the IFAW. This includes the incessant misuse of photo opportunities with white coats which are illegal to hunt. The report states that: "the perception of the seal hunt seems to be based largely on emotion and on visual images that are often difficult for even experienced observers to interpret with certainty. Campaigns and rhetoric that play to the emotion at the expense of understanding and communication of factual information will neither increase the use of humane efforts nor reduce animal suffering."
Perhaps your organization would care to explain why to this very day you have photos of white coats on your web site and you continue to promote photo opportunities involving these seals, when in fact it has been illegal to hunt these since 1987. I find it ironic that you would lecture anyone on facts, when your entire money-making campaign is based on blatantly false information. Surely with the $77 million USD raised by your organization in 2004, you can afford to update your web site.
You state: "…seal hunt is actually an intervention to save seals from starvation…I would welcome any evidence."
First of all, from a sustainability perspective let me state again that the seal herd is extremely healthy and despite increased allowable catch the population has tripled to 5.8 million since the 1970's. We have taken our annual allowable catch every year while the herd continues to grow substantially. Over-populated seal, like other animal populations, can result in the death of seals as a result of starvation. The seal population is at an all-time high therefore their food source is being stressed as well. This would likely result in many seals dying a very slow and painful death as a result of not being able to find food. In fact, we have experienced in this province seals coming into shallow water bays and rivers – where they have never been seen before – in desperate search of food. This is perhaps why the United Nations and the International Union for the Conservation of Nature have recognized that Sustainable Use of the world’s living resources is not only legal and appropriate, but that such practices contribute to conservation of biodiversity by developing protocols which guide that harvest and "constituencies of interest."
You state: "….products from this commercial slaughter are used to shelter and fuel….I would welcome any evidence you have to back up these ludicrous assertions."
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more perspective (Score:1)
Margaret Wente has again shown she does not understand Newfoundland and Labrador or rural Canada (Our Black Eye: Most Of The Seal Hunt Propaganda Is True - April 7).
We can agree that the seal harvest is about propaganda; that is, memorable images are used to generate an emotional response. Seals are killed on pristine ice floes where blood plays to the cameras. Slaughterhouses and fur farms also provide meat and clothing, but they operate behind closed doors, away from celebrity spokespersons and video.
Some environmental lobbyists shamelessly promote misleading images of the seal fishery. They also use human words like "baby" and photos of young whitecoats (which have been protected since 1987). As Ms. Wente points out, these lobbyists are driven by money because the seal harvest remains a key part of their international fundraising campaigns.
The power of propaganda speaks to the irony that these groups and the public have no interest in the continued overfishing of moratoria fish species. Some European nations still purposely catch fish that are at risk of devastation. The seal population, by comparison, is at some of the highest levels ever recorded, but seals are above the water and ready to be captured on film.
For hundreds of people, sealing provides a significant source of income before the spring fishing season. That's why they risk their lives in a dangerous industry.
Ms. Wente's lack of awareness of the economic hardships facing people in remote areas of Canada - who, she claims, should set their "sights a little higher" and go "to night school to get retraining" - is unfair and disrespectful. Her ill-informed commentary about rural Canada and the seal fishery widely promotes unjust stereotypes.
Trevor Taylor, MHA
Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador
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more perspective (Score:1)
Sealing industry
Atlantic premiers meeting June 8 in Fredericton, New Brunswick acknowledged that groups such as the IFAW were publicly stating a number of misconceptions regarding the sealing industry.
Newfoundland Premier Brian Tobin noted that "the seal hunt is conducted on the basis of a sustainable harvest, utilizing humane practices carried out by professional fishermen."
Premiers acknowledged the importance of the sealing industry in terms of its economic value and impact, particularly in Newfoundland and Labrador, as evident from the following indicators for 1998:
Landed Value to Seal Harvesters $10 million
Number of Fishermen Engaged 3,900
Number of Plant Workers 300
Premiers noted that subsidies provided to the sealing industry were being overstated by industry opponents. Tobin noted "the level of subsidy has been declining significantly in recent years and the federal subsidy will be phased out in 1999."
Premiers also noted the impact seals were having on other fisheries. "The average consumption of fish per seal per year is estimated at 1.4 tonnes. In the case of northern cod, NAFO scientists estimate that seals consume approximately 108,000 tonnes of juvenile fish," Tobin said. "These are less than 40 centimetres in length and represent an astounding 300 million juveniles. Clearly, this is having a major impact on the recovery of northern cod."
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And the Canadian fans should suffer for this? (Score:0)
This one is purely just hurting the fans and it sucks
from the Canadian Dept. on Fisheries and Oceans (Score:1)
march, 2005
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NOTE TO EDITORS: The following points are intended to address the current myths and misconceptions surrounding the Atlantic Canada seal hunt.
Myth #1: The Canadian government allows sealers to kill adorable little white seals.
Reality: The image of the whitecoat harp seal is used prominently by seal hunt opponents. This image gives the false impression that vulnerable seal pups are targeted by sealers during the commercial hunt.
The hunting of harp seal pups (whitecoats) and hooded seal pups (bluebacks) is illegal – and has been since 1987. Marine Mammal Regulations prohibit the trade, sale or barter of the fur of these pups. Furthermore, seals cannot be harvested when they are in breeding or birthing grounds.
Myth #2: Seals are being skinned alive.
Reality: The most recent Canadian Veterinary Medical Association (CVMA) Report and numerous reports mentioned by the Malouf Commission (1987) indicate that this is not true.
Sometimes a seal may appear to be moving after it has been killed; however seals have a swimming reflex that is active – even after death. This reflex falsely appears as though the animal is still alive when it is clearly dead – similar to the reflex in chickens.
Myth #3: Seals are not independent animals when they are killed – they still rely on their mothers and can’t even swim or fend for themselves.
Reality: Only weaned, self-reliant seals are hunted after they have been left by their mothers to fend for themselves.
The vast majority of harp seals are taken after more than 25 days of age, after their white coat has moulted. Harp seals have the ability to swim at this stage of development. They are also opportunistic feeders and prey on whatever food source in readily available to them.
Myth #4: Countless seals that slip off the ice after being clubbed or shot are lost and never accounted for.
Reality: "Struck and lost" data from at-sea observers as well as the CVMA indicate that this is not true. In fact, the record of struck and loss for the Canadian commercial seal hunt stands at less than five per cent.
For one thing, most of the harp seals taken in Canada are hunted on the ice rather than in the water and this makes losses much lower than in places like Greenland. Second, harp seals that are hunted have very high levels of body fat, making them quite buoyant. That, coupled with the buoyant qualities of salt water, make it quite easy for sealers to retrieve a seal should they slip into the water after being shot.
Myth #5: The Canadian government is allowing sealers to kill nearly one million seals to help with the recovery of cod stocks.
Reality: Several factors have contributed to the lack of recovery of Atlantic cod stocks, such as fishing effort, poor growth and physical condition of the fish, and environmental changes. Seals eat cod, but seals also eat other fish that prey on cod, therefore it is difficult to hold any one factor responsible for the decline in cod stocks.
In addition, there are many uncertainties in the estimates of the amount of fish consumed by seals. The commercial quota is established on sound conservation principles, not an attempt to assist in the recovery of groundfish stocks.
Myth #6: The club – or hakapik – is a barbaric tool that has no place in today’s world.
Reality: Clubs have been used by sealers since the onset of the hunt hundreds of years ago. Hakapiks originated with Norwegian sealers who found it very effective. Over the years, studies conducted by the various veterinary experts, and American studies carried out between 1969 and 1972 on the Pribilof Islands hunt (Alaska) have consistently proven that the club or hakapik is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely. A recent report in September, 2002, b
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this so unfair (Score:0)
Hey (Score:0)
Stop cutting and pasting and just calm down, you little bitch! You look like a little girl. Seriously. Have some dignity.
How the hell does Moz have any fans left? (Score:1)
He probably didn't plan to play Canada in the first place. This is just another effort to get his name in the papers.
Kinda makes you wonder if everything he says is so he gets his name in the papers.
325,000 seals being brutally murdered is indeed horrific but surely doesn't compare to the death of thousands of people & soldiers in Iraq thanks to the US Government. But of course he's still playing the US.
Whatever your views on the war, to play the US inspite of it, whilst not playing Canada is really double standards.
I suppose this post will get a 'nought' because it criticses Moz but I don't care.
I'm English but if I were Canadian, this would be the last straw.
Moz in a nutshell: Great records, questionable attitude.
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What about Spain, or Mexico? (Score:1)
And its funny how everyone here who isnt Canadian pretty much is like , "Yeah, good on ya Morrissey" I wonder how his US fans would react to such a thing? I agree with his views just not the way he goes about it. Its sad though,I really believe its the media attention he is after. Like someone said he only ever plays Toronto anyway...
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FAO: chrisarclark - give it a rest (Score:0)
I've never seen anyone wear a seal pelt in Toronto (Score:1)
He should boycott the Newfies but Newfie don't buy Morrissey records... they buy Brooks and Dunn.
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i dont know why moz is boycotting... (Score:0)
Viva Hate Indeed (Score:0)
P.S. I live in Toronto. We do not club seals in Toronto.
Truly
Robert Dubeau
Former Stage-Crasher, 2004
oh canada! (Score:1)
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this is why i love this man so much (Score:0)