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posted by
davidt
on Tuesday March 07 2006, @12:00PM
gladwin writes:
Dickon Edwards (formerly of Shelley and Orlando, and currently of Fosca) finds space in his online diary to examine the treatment of Mike Joyce's drumming in Simon Goddard’s "The Smiths: Songs That Saved Your Life."
Here's what he says: ----- Friday 3 March 2006 Please Don’t Describe The Drums: Part 2 Excerpt: ...He clearly feels the other three Smiths should be as celebrated as Morrissey. Now, this is fair enough with Mr Marr, but I’m not convinced that people rushed out to get all those wonderful records because they liked the way the drummer Mike Joyce played the drums. I would describe Mr Joyce’s talents as perfectly acceptable, but certainly not worth drawing attention to. Not so with Mr Goddard. Throughout the book he feels the need to describe the drums. I find it embarrassing enough when music hacks refer to drum patterns at all (usually with winceworthy words like “pulsating”, “pummelling” and “pounding”) , so I suppose it’s quite a feat of thesaurus-dredging to be able to find enough different drum-compatible adjectives for the best part of eighty different Smiths songs.
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What's quite funny about this (Score:0)
I find (Score:1)
Anyway, he (Edwards) is totally irrelevant.
NFT
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Know-nothings (Score:0)
Mike Joyce has been viciously denounced as a non-entity of The Smiths by Morrissey. It only makes sense for an author of The Smiths catalogue to bring to light Joyce's contributions. It's a rebuttal. I mean, afterall, the guy wrote the forward to Goddard's book and allowed him to be one of the few people in the world to hear such priceless outtakes.
No one has ever stated that people bought the albums for Joyce alone, but it's impossible to compare a rhythm section to the actual songwriting team. It still doesn't mean that he was a mere session player.
A good drummer can absolutely alter the structure of a song for good and for bad.
I've read Songs that saved your life (Score:1)
I personally think that Songs that saved your life is the best Smiths book around and anyone who knocks it is a complete cock who's got issues that aren't to do with the book.
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dickon (Score:0)
Who is Dickon Edwards? (Score:0)
What relevance has he got?
They weren't even a so-called ONE HIT WONDER. No, they werent any of that. And this bloke now pontificates.
He probably sent the page of his diary himself.
Bah...
A good book but... (Score:0)
Joyce (Score:0)
ACTON
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Re:joyce (Score:1)
What do you want? do you want him to die ? do you want members of his family to die? do you want terrible things to happen to his children?
That is a terrible thing to say what has he ever done to you personally ?
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