posted by davidt on Monday September 26 2005, @11:00AM
goinghome writes:
Don’t forget to tune in to BBC2, 8.30pm this Tuesday 27th Sept. for “The James Dean Legacy: Rebel Without a Cause” when Johnny Depp (one of whose girlfriends was Kate Moss) presents a profile of the legendary Hollywood actor who died at the wheel of his Porsche 50 years ago aged just 24. Morrissey is one of the guest speakers.
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Update: 09/27 19:56 GMT: Listen Live link at BBC Radio 2 site provided in the comments.
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Update: 09/28 00:50 GMT: Morrissey did not appear as advertised according to people who listened to the show.
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  • Can some one reord this so the fans in the U.S can view it !?!?
    Gee -- Monday September 26 2005, @11:20AM (#179667)
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    • Re:can someone ?? by irishgirlenglisheart (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @12:32PM
  • Which states BBC2.

    in fact I think it's BBC RADIO TWO.

    Anonymous -- Monday September 26 2005, @11:37AM (#179674)
  • the coke-snorting ho? Thats cool, but how is that tidbit relative?

    Just curious.
    Anonymous -- Monday September 26 2005, @11:43AM (#179675)
  • You can listen to the show on the BBC Radio 2 website.
    You'll be able to listen to it online or download it onto your ipod.

    www.bbc.co.uk/radio2
    Aly Panic -- Monday September 26 2005, @12:45PM (#179696)
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  • You know this would be better on film documentary or something like that.

    This would be better transmited through television.
    tenderliz -- Monday September 26 2005, @04:09PM (#179724)
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  • Since I am not there in England, but here in New England, and since I can't remember my old geography lessons, could I ask any of you to tell me what time is it going to be in the part of the planet I am in when the show starts? I know it must be a five to five and a half hour difference - but I can't remember if I should add or subract the difference! Poor Mrs. Woolf! Bad in politics, bad in geography, bad in English... But she tries!

    Oh!... When they start to air Radio France Internationale here, it is 2 pm in Paris and 7 am here. No...the show starts at 7am here when it's 12 there. Someone, help?!
    Mrs. Woolf -- Monday September 26 2005, @04:25PM (#179729)
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  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/documentaries/ rebel.shtml
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @09:42AM (#179815)
  • I read that the car was stolen recently following an exhibition (near to florida) and that a reward - of 1 million dollars - was posted for information leading to it's safe return. Not sure of the current status.

    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @11:34AM (#179828)
    • Re:Car - by Rockabilleigh (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @12:31PM
      • Re:Car - by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:31PM
  • oh (Score:2, Funny)

    its a half an hour in where's morrissey???i have a very short attention span for radio ooh but johnny depps voice is lovely.
    irishgirlenglisheart -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:15PM (#179851)
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    • Re:oh by langworthy (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:31PM
    • Re:oh by goinghome (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:31PM
      • Re:oh by irishgirlenglisheart (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:46PM
        • Re:oh by goinghome (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @02:00PM
          • Re:oh by irishgirlenglisheart (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @02:22PM
            • Re:oh by goinghome (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @02:31PM
            • Re:oh by xXx_Mrs_Moz_xXx (Score:1) Wednesday September 28 2005, @02:38AM
  • where was morrissey in any of that? im sad now....

    sarah jane xxx
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:31PM (#179853)
  • Very typical, Morrissey's voice: not heard!!!!
    What was that all about??? intersting doc though.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:32PM (#179857)
  • Did Morrissey say even one line squeezed in amongst the rest, or wasn't he in there at all?

    If not, despite the false lead, I hope folk enjoyed the broadcast, which is at least about a subject we know is dear to Morrissey's heart.

    Next!
    goinghome -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @01:40PM (#179858)
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  • Folks
    This is directly from the BBC Radio 2 website advertising the programme. We’re mostly dependent on other sources here for our news. It is no fault of mine, not of Danbutt or S J Banks, authors of the earlier stories, if the promises weren’t born out – unless we’re all half-asleep! Shit happens; let’s just move on. By the way, I don’t recall hearing Paul McCartney either: anyone?
    Good night.

    "Johnny Depp on James Dean
    Tuesday 27 September @ 8.30-9.30pm
    James Dean is the eternal youthful rebel - the movie idol blessed with the looks, style, talent and attitude that captivated a generation. To mark the 50th anniversary of his death at the wheel of his Porsche on September 30 1955, Johnny Depp presents this profile of one of Hollywood's most popular icons. Although he died before Elvis had his first hit, Dean's rebellious image has always been associated with rock 'n' roll and he was idolised by musicians like Presley, Bob Dylan and John Lennon, who is quoted as saying "without James Dean, the Beatles would never have existed." Johnny Depp highlights the artistic passion that drove this country boy from rural Indiana, to become a 20th century icon. He starred in only three movies but when he died, aged just 24, his sensitive, violent, moody and tormented portrayal of rebellious youth had inspired a generation of disaffected teenagers. The programme features interviews with fans including Morrissey, David Puttnam, David Bailey, Dennis Hopper, Martin Landau, Bill Wyman and Sir Paul McCartney."
    goinghome -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @02:27PM (#179869)
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    • Re:What the BBC said by suzanne (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @02:35PM
    • Re:What the BBC said by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 27 2005, @03:59PM
      • yes mccartney was there but only for a second which makes advertising his contribution as fraudulent as moz's non-appearance. all the others listed in the press blurb above appeared at length.

        one for 'feedback' i think. i've never complained before (honest) but naming contributors is a deliberate way of getting extra listeners - i never touch radio2 - and i told several people to listen on the basis of the (good faith) post here which was based on the bbc website.

        still, nice to hear dear old david jacobs (of juke box jury) schmoozing in after the dean doc ended.
        methadone -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @05:20PM (#179891)
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    • Re:What the BBC said by Anonymous (Score:1) Wednesday September 28 2005, @12:24AM
  • This documentary is part of the demise of the BBC.....
    calumnior -- Tuesday September 27 2005, @04:31PM (#179884)
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  • http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndweb pages/morrissey%20denies%20gay%20relationship%20wi th%20marr%20

    how annoying to publish this out of someone elses magazine i read this ages ago man
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 28 2005, @03:30AM (#179913)
  • I'm sure Morrissey's been on record in the past, saying how he didn't really care much for Dean's acting work. "He was a bit of a ham, really." I think were his very words.

    But James Dean as a (counter) cultural persona was far more interesting than his movies.

    "Giant", I recall, was a very, very long soap drama starring a bunch of queens hamming it up like there's no tomorrow (Rock Hudson, Dean, Liz Taylor, etc).

    Oh well, that was my two bit.
    Ramon -- Wednesday September 28 2005, @07:33AM (#179922)
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  • No Morrissey last night but the producers may have been short of time and therefore some of the more 'up to date' contributions, with the exception of Paul McCartney's brief 'he was all image' and Adam Faith's 'teenagers were never allowed to..' (go out of the house) and so forth. That said, I made a couple of noteworthy comments:

    'all of us were touched by Jimmy and he was touched by greatness.'

    'really he was not a rebel' - Natalie Wood.

    Many people are better placed to comment on his life and on his work but it was nice to listen to a brief interview with Natalie Wood who also suffered a very tragic early death. And comments from his friend Eartha Kitt who told him that his porsche car was spooked and that it was going to kill him. Another from (Alex Guiness?) along similar lines.

    Strawberry
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 28 2005, @09:14AM (#179936)
  • Just something about her voice.

    Other than that, it would have been a better television documentary. There should have been visuals to go along with it.

    Johnny Depp sounded oh so very boring on there. He is an excellent actor, but not a good narrator.

    someraincoatedlovers -- Wednesday September 28 2005, @10:51AM (#179953)
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  • james dean liked to have sex with men.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 28 2005, @03:07PM (#179994)
    • Re:huh? by Biscuit Buscemi (Score:1) Thursday September 29 2005, @03:15PM
  • It was interesting sort of but I wanted to hear from Morrissey. Why advertise someone's name is connected with the doco and then cut them out?

    yeah I know why.
    shlaabu -- Thursday September 29 2005, @12:16AM (#180019)
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  • Wednesday evening in the UK and this time a much more exciting/interesting TV show on Dean. This one included some interesting and spectacular footage together with pictures from the accident scene and wreckage.

    In addition, the program had interviews with people who were involved in the accident, namely policemen on the scene (1 witness) and another witness who had been driving very close behind Donald Turnupseed and watched the entire accident scene unfold from start to finish.

    The program showed a computerised reconstruction of the crash scene, using modern and accurate computer predications and image analysis software, looking at photographs taken from the crash scene and of the road markings - tyre skid marks.

    For anyone interested, the program proved (by scientific means) and quite conclusively that:

    1) Dean was not travelling as quickly as the rumours would have you believe - on investigation his car was travelling between 70 and 75mph.

    2) Donald Turnupseed was travelling between 60 and 65mph.

    3) Dean's car could clearly be seen a significant distance away on that road. There was a dip in the road, but on investigation this dip was not sufficient enough to stop another driver seeing Dean's car and seing the car from several hundred metres away.

    4) Donald Turnupseed clearly caused the accident, without a shadow of doubt, and also contradicting with the common view (and original trial outcome) that blamed Dean.

    5) On investigation, looking at the markings from Turnupseeds tyres, it actually looked like he was not looking at the road infront of him (with Dean's car on it) when he turned.

    6) Dean was driving the car. Dean was badly injured in the crash due to the weight of Turnupseeds car and because the aluminium Porsche was much smaller (in height terms) and also very much lighter, much lighter, causing significant damage.

    7) Both drivers were speeding, but not by much, and certainly not as much had been expressed at the original trial - at which time Dean had been blamed for the crash and for speeding in the region of 93 mph (based on a flawed estimatation of speed versus distance it would now appear)

    8) Dean was braking very hard when his Porsche crashed- some 20 yards and more from the tyre skid marks it would seem.

    Apologies for the poor spelling and typing but I wanted to get this down quickly just incase anyone was interested.

    Strawberry
    Anonymous -- Thursday September 29 2005, @01:47PM (#180083)
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