posted by davidt on Tuesday October 07 2003, @09:00AM
Jimmy Clitheroe writes:

Andy Rourke's old Smiths used Yamaha bb2000 bass guitar is up for auction at EBAY (starting bid = $2400.00/£1442.48).
 
From description on auction page:
"It was purchased in 1983 and put straight to work on all The Smiths records there-after. The bass has remained in Mr. Rourke's possession for twenty years. It's featured in the gatefold cover of "Hatful Of Hollow". Mr. Rourke has also used this bass on all of the records since the demise of The Smiths:-The Pretenders, Sinead O'Connor, Badly Drawn Boy and more. The bass has a few dings which were inflicted by Andy Rourke & Johnny Marr when they figured their new guitars looked a little TOO new!! It's got a thru' neck and plays great. Plugged in, it instantly has that "Barbarism Begins at Home" twang. It comes in it's original case with a letter from Mr. Rourke. This is a rare chance to own a well documented slice of Rock n Roll history. Mr Rourke will be willing to personally autograph the instrument itself should the winner so wish. Feel free to request any j-pegs or ask any questions."

eBay item 3352946350 - Ex Smiths Bass Guitar


Update: 10/12 16:14 GMT:
Marco writes:

The Andy Rourke bass guitar was sold for US$ 5.800. The winning bid was made by the user gazza51070. There were 31 bids total.
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  • Starting bid is $2400.00!!?? Maybe $240.00 would be reasonable. It is just an old bass guitar that must be well worn by this time.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @09:19AM (#76096)
  • C'mon guys, bid up. Andy's gotta pay his rent you know.
    BBC Scum -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @09:23AM (#76098)
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  • Hilarious ! (Score:0, Troll)

    This only means Mr Morrissey hasn't paid a single pound yet from the trial. What will they do next ?
    By the way, let's start a poll about "what Andy and Micky's next move shall be" ?

    1- Mike selling drum sticks (very good condition, used during the Meat is Murder Tour, can also be used as chopsticks) ?
    2- Andy posing naked in Male Insiders (centrefold with exclusive interview of Andy aka Mr November entitled "November spawned a bass player")?
    3- Mike selling a fringe of Morrissey's fallen quiff (revelation : Moz never had a recessing hairline, Mike was cutting a bit every night!)
    4- Andy writing a book called "How I Wrote Barbarism Begins At Home". The manual gives away the best addresses in Manchester for buying syringes, spoons and rubberbands (in association with Boots stores)
    5- Your own suggestion of anything pathetic.
    Retired Whore <[email protected]> -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @09:31AM (#76100)
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    Sweet F.A.
  • 'budget' Ikea sofa, truly tacky wall hangings and wafer thin laminate flooring in a bad 'urban-splash' light industrial loft style appartment / shoebox.

    cmon guys - this man's in trouble - empty your pockets and spare buddy a dime.
    Brighton Rich -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @09:48AM (#76106)
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  • If I had any money I would. The guitar that spelled out every Smiths bass line, the guitar that made This man Charming. It's Rock n Roll history. It's Smiths history. I hope it goes for a lot more than £1400 or whatever it is. If it doesn't then people don't hold the Smiths in such high regard.
    Andy must be in poor shape to need to sell a thing like that.
    paulybob <[email protected]> -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @10:26AM (#76117)
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  • I can't afford to purchase this item myself, but here's hoping he manages to pull in a hefty sum for it (at least more than he's asking for). Poor guy! To feature a picture of himself at home with the guitar, that's got to be pretty humiliating. And I'm guessing it would probably be hard to part with something like that. Give the guy a break!
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @11:43AM (#76131)
  • I can't fuckin believe this.... me heart dropped and got a sick feeling in me belly when I read the advert of this on ebay. Someone pls help him. Morrissey PAY-UP!!!!! for fucks sake this is one of the person's who contributed to your success!
    Gin N Tonic Jil -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @12:01PM (#76135)
    (User #7276 Info)
    You're not down with who I am but, look at you now you're all in my hands...tonight I'm a Rock N' Roll Star!!
  • Morrissey's old hearing aid. Oh, and the nipple band-aid from the November Spawned a Monster video. I'd pay top dollar for either, possibly both if I could get a loan from the bank. Also, my mom would like the black button up sweater from The Last of the Famous... video.
    fut -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @12:01PM (#76136)
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  • bass values by Niko (Score:1, Interesting)

    This bass is worth about $400 usualy. and that is alot for an old japanese bass. those are nice basses. the qestions are,
    A.if you play bass in a band do you really want your instruments former owner outshining you. it would be a constant reminder of how much better he is/was than you.
    B. is his ownership really worth $2000
    C. who, besides you is gonna care. i would .but really how many of us are out there
    D. will you be able to prove his ownership when you need to sell it.

              I dont think it's such a big deal that he is selling it. We see it as a peice of history, to him it's just his old axe. I've never held on to anything forever. Why would you?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @12:41PM (#76146)
  • Whats the big deal? Marr sold his Gretsch on eBay and Joyce sold his kit. Just because they don't have emotional attachments to their Smiths-era instruments does not have to mean they're broke, they just don't need them anymore.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @01:56PM (#76157)
    • Re:so what? by paulybob (Score:1) Tuesday October 07 2003, @02:22PM
      • Re:so what? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday October 07 2003, @02:51PM
        • Re:so what? by paulybob (Score:1) Tuesday October 07 2003, @04:03PM
          • Re:so what? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday October 07 2003, @05:48PM
  • If only I had the money...oh if only. I am one of those dorks who would be happy to press my fingers to the same strings Andy Rourke played on. He truly is a great, great bassist. Yes and I also hope it goes for more money than that, I mean come on, everybody. Unless I buy it. Then the price can stay nice and low.
    xLoveletterx -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @05:49PM (#76202)
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    • Re:Andy's bass by Curt Woyte (Score:1) Thursday October 09 2003, @03:57AM
  • it's a pretty guitar and no yet has to bid on it. if i had the dough i would definately invest in buying the guitar. there must loads of smiths' history from the guitar.
    leedoggpimp <[email protected]> -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @06:08PM (#76204)
    (User #2789 Info | http://www.morrisseymusic.com/)
    True friends stab you in the front.
  • I see some of the usual Moz drones are at it again with their fecicious, "Poor Andy" routine.

    It either hints at a complete naivete in regards to the music making process, and Andy's importance in shaping the songs, or it lays bare their complete sycophantic bias towards Morrissey himself.

    It really is good to grow older, but it seems as if many never acquire some of the necessary mental benefits.

    Anyway, as much as I would love to have this bass, if only to cradle it while listening to The Smiths albums, I wish for something a bit more sentimental: If Andy ever cuts off a hand and puts it on ebay, I'm taking out a loan.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday October 07 2003, @07:53PM (#76214)
  • Get your facts straight! As someone else posted earlier, Andy Rourke didn't get anything from the trial. He accepted an out of court payment and closed the matter.

    None of you truly know Morrissey, so how can you judge him to be a horrible person based on rumours and hearsay? You should be ashamed of yourselves! "Fans", indeed!
    Anonymous -- Wednesday October 08 2003, @04:23AM (#76252)
  • Ooooooooh (Score:2, Insightful)

    Never knew he'd worked with Sinead O' Conner.

    I don't understand why we're discussing this. if he wants to sell his old Bass guitar, so what? it's up to him. I'm sure whichever lucky Smiths fan buys it will be chuffed to bits to display it in their home. so what's the big deal?

    It's hilarious that some of you nobheads are using this story as another excuse to have a pop at a great musician.
    JiltedJim -- Wednesday October 08 2003, @06:03AM (#76259)
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    • Re:Ooooooooh by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday October 09 2003, @03:50AM
  • If life were fair, and we all know it isn't, somebody with a sentimental streak and sense of fair play would pay Andy the money and let him keep the guitar, or else donate it to the Rock Hall in Cleveland.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday October 08 2003, @10:12AM (#76286)
    • Re:Andy's bass by JiltedJim (Score:1) Friday October 10 2003, @02:50AM
  • Someone said this: “If it wasn't a big deal to him than he would not have used THE SAME bass on all those recordings. It must have held some kind of power for him if he is willing to sell it.”

    I think it would be wise to understand that not all artists hold their own music up to what the fans do, especially fans that only hold them in regard because of an infamous frontman. At heart, nobody really cares about the drummer for The Rolling Stones, for instance, and he’d probably be the same nobody he was before if not for Mick Jagger. But yet his drumset, used to record however many albums, is considered gold and would sell for millions. It doesn’t mean that Charlie guys gives much of a shit about the drums or whatever records he used them on. With all the money he has now, what does he need an old drumset for?

    Andy, on the other hand, may feel the very same way about the Smiths, but he may also actually have to worry about paying bills. So the equation is easy.

    Blake from Jawbreaker sold his guitar after the band broke up; as far as I recall it had been used on every Jawbreaker record simply because that was his only guitar. Granted, he wasn't as wealthy as The Smiths were, but guitarists tend to like using the same guitar, even if they do have a few others for back-ups and special songs which require a different sound.

    But as for using the same one over and over, they've broken it in and it feels comfortable, like people who keep the same pair of shoes for five or six years. If they were moved to buy another, they'd probably have just purchased the same guitar anyway, so if the old one isn't broken, why not keep it and use it over and over? It doesn't have to have any real sentimental attachment. Especially if, as in the case of Blake, he didn't like Jawbreaker anymore and didn't need the guitar.

    I wouldn't venture that Andy has much of a regard for the Smiths anymore, especially given how badly he’s been treated financially when the other two in the band got very wealthy off it. If he has other basses he uses now instead, why hold onto Smiths "artifacts" when he can sell them for lots of money to obsessive fans?

    After Jawbreaker Blake was sick of music and sold it to buy a nice typewriter. He sold it on Ebay, actually.

    Jentle.
    Jentle -- Wednesday October 08 2003, @12:26PM (#76312)
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  • I don't think its right for Andy to use this site for his garage sale.
    Anonymous -- Thursday October 09 2003, @05:44AM (#76390)
  • I think he put the bass on e-bay, not on morrissey-solo. It's definitely note-worthy here because there are so many Smiths fans that would be interested in just knowing its there, some interested in seeing the pictures and some interested in buying it. The reserve has now been met. I don't know why he is selling it and it doesn't matter. I was glad to get a chance to see this auction unfold live, which would not have happened if it wasn't posted here.
    bored -- Thursday October 09 2003, @10:44AM (#76415)
    (User #8415 Info)
    • Pay up Andy! by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday October 09 2003, @01:23PM
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