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posted by
davidt
on Friday May 23 2003, @09:00AM
Marcus writes:
Yes, they call this a promotional poster. No, it is not a real band, so don't try to find them at your local record store. It's just a fantasy, a parody done purely in the name of fun, something to share with the Morrissey-solo community. The Blacksmiths
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Um.... (Score:1)
(User #401 Info | http://www.omgmyblog.com/)
Great drawing (Score:1)
Thanks
(User #215 Info)
insulting (Score:1)
2003, I really thought we were over this...
(User #4968 Info)
Re:insulting (Score:2, Insightful)
It IS insulting. Because it perpetuates stereotypes. Your insinuating that it's blacks writing "all these insulting songs, wear big chains, and make upon words like "bling, bling"", shows just how twisted your view on race is. (I find that insulting too, by the way). Who's the most controversial rap artist these days? Eminem.
But that's beside the point. Yes, a lot of hip hop artists are black. But not every black person, is violent, sexist, mysoginist etc. (indeed not even every hip hop artist). And that's what so insulting about that picture, the word "black" is associated with all those things. If the picture would have been called the hiphopSmiths, it would have been less of an issue. But it's called the blacksmiths, insinuating that all there is to black people is hip hop, violence, macho-sexist behaviour and slang. And that's not true. Not all black people are like that, and some white people ARE. That's just what you see on TV, but that's the media's doing, they're constantly perpetuating stereotypes, not only of blacks, but also gays, women, muslims, mexicans (WAKE UP!)etc. This has to end. Because it causes people like you, who don't get out in the real world often enough, to think every person of a certain race, creed or sexuality a stereotype instead of a human being.
As far as the Brownsmiths are concerned. You're not telling me that if someone drew a picture like that with all stereotypes about Mexicans around and calling them the Brownsmiths you wouldn't be insulted. That would be very odd I think. Have you ever encountered racism in your life? I doubt it. If you, being part of an ethnic minority (I'm assuming you live in the US, correct me if I'm wrong) can't see that picture's insulting, then there's something seriously wrong with you. Otherwise you live in Mexico.
"It's just a drawing". So's a swastika. Shame on you...
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uhhhh (Score:1)
(User #184 Info | http://www.cato.org/)
Disappointed (Score:0)
It's dumb, but... (Score:1)
Hey, if you wanna hear an absolutely fantastic Smiths-influenced band fronted by a great singer who's black, listen to the Dears. They describe themselves as orchestral pop noir romantique, I think.
http://www.thedears.org/
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Funny Drawing (Score:0)
Personally I found the drawing very funny.
It's not meant to be taken seriously.
Similarly, I am a Greek-Australian. I found the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding very funny, because it is meant to be humerous. That movie couldn't be more sterio-typical of greek people.
Re:Funny Drawing (Score:2, Interesting)
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Takes the cake (Score:0)
that story takes the cake . i like it.
gangsta smiths rock
(User #1848 Info)
If I were black, I would be a bit uncomfortable. (Score:3, Insightful)
That said, I am aware that racism against blacks exists, and that it is not funny, and that, if I were black, I would bristle a bit at that illustration, because I would wonder, if it were drawn by, for instance, some smartass klu klux klan ass licker. Never know. So, certainly, it would hurt to a degree, unless I saw reassurance embedded in the piece, that the intention really was strictly playful. It isn't funny to be hated for one's genetic code, and such an illustration, would remind me, that such hatred, and manufactured justification for it, exist. There are people who hate blacks, but it is hard for people who aren't subjected to it, to see anything but humour in such an illustration, because they themselves do not feel their pleasure of it poisoned by the painful associatons that may come to mind with this stereotypical portrayal, in a person who's been impacted by this stereotype, had it used against him/her, as justification to violate him/her.
(User #6184 Info)
no, no, no (Score:1)
(User #8102 Info)
Sheesh (Score:1)
I don't want to live in a world where you can't poke fun at stereotypes. I'm sorry, but Anyone who took offense at this must be a simpleton.
(User #7728 Info)
racist (Score:1)
(User #5097 Info)
David T.- this posting in *very* poor taste (Score:1)
This drawing is horribly stereotypical, and it is not funny whatsoever. Actually, it is very moronic and stupid. I do not see any humour in it whatsoever. I cannot believe in 2003 that we have to cope with this. African-Americans are as diverse a population as any other.
I am tired of *ghetto-fabulous* promotions.
Sincerely,
Ken Stavitzke
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Ha! (Score:1)
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I can't believe (Score:1)
This is not "perpetuating myths" about black people - where in the drawing is it hinted that "This is how all black people are"? It's mixing elements of two different worlds - That of the Smiths and that of certain black rap bands (and these do exist, but nobody in their right minds would say that they represent everything that is black, just like the Smiths do not represent everything that is British), thus creating a funny whole. It's what most humour is about anyway. You may or may not be amused, but it is obviously not meant in an offensive way.
I also don't like the implication that rap culture somehow represents a bad part of black culture. I tend to think rap music to some extent bridges the gap between races and certainly means a lot to many people (though personally I am not a fan).
Lighten up, please, and spend your energy on worthier causes. There are people starving in Africa for God's sake.
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Maybe we should think before shooting off. (Score:1)
Worse still is the suggestion being made here that any one or any culture cannot be the object of humour without being racist.
(User #204 Info)
Bloody hell (Score:0)
Good and Funny Job !!!! (Score:1)
Personally I found the drawing very funny.
It's not meant to be taken seriously.
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Ask Moz! (Score:0)
Yeah it's stupid, but it's funny, and like any ethnic joke, the point is not to take it as a generalization of a race, but rather a commentary on those who DO take it seriously.
sing me to sleep (Score:1)
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