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davidt
on Monday March 24 2003, @11:00AM
Phubbbs writes:
"Morrissey, Mexico, Myth" by Anthony Easton - Freaky Trigger An interesting and well-written article regarding Morrissey's Latino fanbase. Good food for thought.
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Interesting article... (Score:0)
The one thing I didn't like about the article was about Morrissey being depicted as this sort of sexually depraved monster who lured young Latino boys to his house. I don't really know what that's all about.
Ummmmm......What? (Score:2, Interesting)
It seems to me that whenever a gay Morrissey fan speaks of Morrissey, they do so from an inaccurate presumption. Morrissey has sung about a great deal of topics, and they usually revolve around honesty, human emotion, style, and irony.
Morrissey has been a genius to keep his homosexuality private, just as Wilde did for a long time. However, Morrissey's words truly transcend sexuality, race, gender, and politics. Gays seem to come off like he's speaking to them, first. I for one simply do not think that's the case...
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Re:Ummmmm......What? (Score:2, Insightful)
I am gay, and I believe that Morrissey's words have NOTHING to do with sexuality whatsoever. He is an idealist, and his words deal with reality. I, too, hate it when people and critics try to categorize Morrissey's words. His music has nothing to do with gays and gay culture whatsoever- and I am very proud of that.
Truly,
KEN
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Re:Ummmmm......What? (Score:2, Informative)
As a gay man and Morrissey fan,I find it frightening you belive his music has nothing to do with sexuality.
Even scarier,your militant comment that you are "proud" of the obscene notion that his music has nothing to do with gay life/culture.
Just what have you been listening to all these years Ken?
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Re: Ummmmm......What´s wrong with you? (Score:2, Insightful)
I feel sorry for you Ken. You obviously have no idea what the man is all about. His lyrics are waisted on you. You just don´t get it, do you? Morrissey has always been and always will be a part of gay culture.
And what exactly are you proud of Ken? Or should I ask what are you ashamed of?
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why does it matter? (Score:0)
Instant loss of credibility (Score:0)
The revolving absurdity of group identity. (Score:0)
It makes absolutley no sense to me why Morrissey, as an indivdual, must feel any need to discuss his sexuality with compelete strangers, or to make any proclamations in regards to it. I think he has given us enough scattered (and clustered) hints that allow us to read between the lines with little confusion.
The overwhelming reality is, when you drag your sexuality into the limelight, it inevitably becomes a predominant aspect of your public personae. Morrissey's likely understanding of this is what I find truly intelligent, and not any desire to perpetrate the common homosexual mindset of "take one for the team."
He should have absolutely no obligations to anyone, or to any group.
One of the most annoying aspects of the homosexual community is the way in which some within pressure others into feeling as if they must proclaim their homsexuality, or else they're obviously suffering from an ingrained thread of shame.
Morrissey must have realized long ago that he is an indivdual first, and a homosexual second; if in fact he does posess any strong faith in his homosexuality.
More importantly, the writer described the film and book versions of "Gods and Monsters" as "ludicrous," which in and of itself, nullifies the entire review.
let down (the feeling, not the Radiohead song) (Score:1)
I was quite disappointed when, several paragraphs later, the essay lost focus. Rather than insights and analysis, there's a bit of bathhouse gossip, a pinch of postcolonial theory, some autobiography and a heavy dash vitriol. I didn't know whether I was reading the NME, an undergraduate journal or this week's Savage Love.
If we must talk about songwriters and musicians, why don't we discuss their work? But the more essential question is, why talk about music when you can listen to or make it?
I could say more, but I'd rather log off and hear some tunes.
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The 21st Century Breathing Down Your Neck (Score:2, Insightful)
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a bit caustic, wouldn't you say? (Score:1)
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I don't get it (Score:1)
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Oh My!! (Score:1)
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MTV Special - Sex in the Nineties (Score:1)
Does anybody remember those MTV Sex in the Nineties specials. They profiled all sorts of people: gays, straight, male, female, bi, old, young, different races and ages. Anyway, I specifically remember Kurt Loder speaking about celebrity sexual preferences and those who broke ground in that area. People like Elton John, David Bowie, etc. He did mention Morrissey, and there was either a picture with Loder speaking about him or an smidge of an interview of Moz.
But what I took of the entire thing at the time was that Morrissey basically declared himself celibate in the sense that a) he will not marry (obvious) and b)abstains from all sexual intercourse and c)does not declare a sexual preference.
But regardless, there was a mention of celibacy because I remember it being juxtaposed against actually declaring yourself Gay/Straight/Bi. However, I am not sure in what context or definition. Obviously these are my conclusions of a show that is about 10 years old. I was interested in finding out if anyone remembers this part of the show and what was said about Moz/said by Moz.
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es pura mierda (Score:0)
salud! y vénga la otra ronda
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