posted by davidt on Wednesday January 08 2003, @09:30AM
Javier writes:

Kurt Cobain Journals, Riverhead books page 44:

"I mean it seems like there are only two options for songwriters personalities either theyre sad, tragic visionaries like MORRISSEY or MICHAEL STIPE or ROBERT SMITH or theres the goofy, nutty white boy, hey, lets party and forget everything people like Van Halen or all other heavy metal crap.

I mean I like to be passionate and sincere, but I also like to have fun and act like a dork"
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Smiths also writes:

In November 1991, Gilbert Blecken did an interview with Kurt Cobain. The interview was published in the British Kerrang! in 1999. Here is the complete interview transcript (towards the bottom of the page / search for Morrissey)

http://www.nirvanaclub.com/nevermind/

When speaking about not taking the band too seriously, the following exchange took place...

Gilbert :
Do you hope to maintain that way of looking at things?

Kurt: Sure, we have to. It's just weird... I've noticed that with a lot of bands you can either be anally serious, sad and depressed like Morrissey, or you can be a big joke like The Butthole Surfers. Usually it's in these two extremes, and I think we feel comfortable in between.
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  • To call Morrissey serious, sad and depressed just how superficial that guy really was. This might account for the intergalactic tedium all all his albums really are.
    Spineless Swine <[email protected]> -- Wednesday January 08 2003, @09:36AM (#52460)
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  • and thought how interesting it would be to read something like that by someone I really loved like Morrissey. Unfortunately we might have to kill him first.
    MyMelody -- Wednesday January 08 2003, @11:33AM (#52473)
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  • Morvana (Score:2, Insightful)

    I would take Nirvana anyday over 98% of the stuff out there now. Is it not true that Morrissey is the big white mope? Are you angry that he was mentioned in the same sentance as Robert Smith? No need to kick a man who has been dead 8 years. Feel free to kick Moz dinner date Courtney Love though.
    dagenhamdooley -- Wednesday January 08 2003, @10:57PM (#52510)
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  • I don't think Kurt was really insulting the Moz in any way here. To put him in the same basket as Michael Stipe must surely be an overall compliment to both, as it's well documented that Cobain and Stipe were really close (as it's reported Stipe and Moz are).
    You can pick holes 'though in the ridiculous dialectic Cobain sets up between "serious" and "fun" artists, and the way he implicitly reveres himself as if he were the first artist ever to think of steering a middle ground between the two.
    Tell that to Public Enemy, Kurt!
    CrushingBore -- Thursday January 09 2003, @04:33AM (#52517)
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  • Before American music became all Britney-bland. They couldn't help becoming so damn famous. They inspired a host of tasteless bands (Creed et al) but they are leagues above any of them.
    Anonymous -- Thursday January 09 2003, @05:33AM (#52519)

  • Yes, Kurt is dead and what did he leave behind? Pain, anger, nothingness... a bunch of songs that nobody remembers any more.
    Anonymous -- Friday January 10 2003, @02:32PM (#52583)
  • Lovely.
    MyMelody -- Wednesday January 08 2003, @02:32PM (#52485)
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  • I agree. I saw the last show of NERVENDING in los angeles and was unimpressed. I went because I was working in the music industry at the time... I tried my mac on Juliette Lewis who was backstage, but her chaperoening brother shot me down. NERVENDING is dramatically dull and will be largely over-rated as long as Cuntly Love continues to pull her Yoko Act and foist every little item kurt has touched onto the all consuming public. A bore marketed to bores.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday January 08 2003, @05:30PM (#52499)
  • do you comprehend music at all or are you another radio trend "everyones doing it" ignorant follower?! appriciate music (not to mention respect for the deceased). people like you destroy good music. MORRISSEY knows it and so did COBAIN. LIVE AND LEARN BIG MOUTH!
    INTERNATIONAL PLAYBO -- Thursday January 09 2003, @12:11AM (#52512)
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  • I don't see anything "insightful" about your comment. I don't know what the moderators were thinking when they rated your "Best career move was for him to die" comment insightful.

    OK, so let's wish everyone death to everyone who speaks against Morrissey?? I don't think so!! His widow might be as useful as a tampon without a string (IGNORANT COMMENT), but guess what?? She's friends with Morrissey, OK??

    And by the way, I don't know where you live but here in the States, tampons do come without strings now.
    I Love Gary -- Thursday January 09 2003, @09:52AM (#52529)
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  • This comment was about as insightful as...well...I can't think of anything now, but it'll come to me.

    Anyway, in many respects Kurt is overrated. Nirvana sounded like a cheap Replacements knock-off in their earlier years. Nevertheless, he brought forth different emotions and different stylings to music that was certainly more substancial than the music of the time. (The early 90's -- with the exception of the Seattle scene at the time, the Smashing Pumpkins, Morrissey's Your Arsenal, and U2's Achtung Baby, etc. -- sucked majorly when it came to music. The whole MC Hammer thing was big...tsk, tsk.) Nirvana's music was pure. And that's what was good about it. It had real, raw emotion attached to it. I'd much rather have 10 Nirvanas out there than 5 Britneys. I mean, at least it was real...

    Courtney Love calls many cool celebrities her friends, including Morrissey and a few of my other favorite musicians, but I still can't stand the woman. She drove Kurt to his supposed suicide. I bet she made him nuts...

    ...I've read many articles, reports, and books about the whole Kurt and Courtney thing, and I firmly believe that she had something to do with his death. I know it in my heart.

    Anywho, I like Nirvana. Therefore, I'm a person who cares about Kurt. Maybe music would be a little better off if he was still around...
    Anonymous-shnonymous <[email protected]> -- Friday January 10 2003, @06:51PM (#52600)
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