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davidt
on Monday May 20 2002, @09:30AM
A very trustworthy source close to Morrissey has further revealed to Morrissey-solo that:
Morrissey is 100% confirmed as Very Special Guest to Jaguares for three concerts in September. The dates are: 12 September (Thurs) San Diego - Open Air Theater 13 September (Fri) San Francisco - Greek Theater 14 September (Sat) Anaheim - Arrowhead Pond Tickets for these concerts will be on sale in two weeks time. Morrissey will perform prior to the Jaguares, and there is a third on the bill that is rumored to be Dashboard Confessional. ---
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well um......I'm there!! (Score:1)
(User #4895 Info)
You gotta be joking me??? (Score:0)
There's no way I'm going to watch Morrissey do a half-ass show so he can make his mortagage payment. If Morrissey wants commitment from his fans, then he must commit himself. Obviously, he hasn't. I would rather hang out in the parking lot of the Arrowhead Pond and try to pick up on girls instead.
ratio (Score:1)
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Fly on 9/11? I'd be to freaked! (Score:0)
Fall into the Gap (Score:0)
I am guessing that this means there will be a tour perhaps of Australia / New Zealand? - he's gonna be in Japan on Aug 17 & 18th Anyhow.
Or maybe he'll do the shows in Japan then fly straight on to Europe.?
Oh maybe he'll take a month holiday?
I'm curious what's happening with the gap in between
Jaguares sucks (Score:0)
Jaguares are one of the best bands of rock (Score:0)
What is the point? (Score:0)
Very little disposable income, very small command of the english language, very short attention span. Si.
No es bueno.
I can't come here anymore (Score:1)
Morrissey Vs Jaguares (Score:0)
Re:Pie and Mash 10 Greasy Spic Food 0 (Score:2, Insightful)
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Give It A Rest Won't You? (Score:1)
just because it happens to be Jaguares' tour, doesn't mean that Morrissey is bowing down to the almighty Jaguares a la: "I am but Morrissey, your humble opening act". please. it's just two groups of musicians who like eachother's music getting together to play some shows.
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please, tell me this is a VERY bad joke (Score:2, Insightful)
not to offend anyone in Mexico, but this is the lowest point in Morrissey career.
I really can not understand what the hell is He doing OPENING for this band!
I know that this could be even worse - Mana, Café Tacuba, errmmm Shakira (joke!) - , but what's the point in OPENING for a "cult band" when He has been enjoying semi-God status for almost 20 years?
I thought that he has learned the lesson after touring with David Bowie in 1995, but you see... he'll never learn.
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Re:please, tell me this is a VERY bad joke (Score:2, Interesting)
Don't you get it?!?!?
He is Morrissey, a legend, the man who wrote some of the best lyrics (the best ones IMHO) in pop history and now He's SUPPORTING a second-class band.
This is not about being racist; it's about having good taste and DIGNITY as an artist.
Enough said.
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This is going to be the best concert ever! (Score:0)
Jaguares/Morrissey won't work in S.F. (Score:0)
Do you think the your typical Moz indie fan will stay after their hero is done singing "Speedway" or a Smiths tune. I don't think so...and by the way, I WISH the fans in the Bay Area were as cool as you guys in L.A. YOU ROCK!!
hmmm... (Score:1)
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Walkout After Morrissey ! (Score:0)
If (Score:0)
no creo... (Score:1)
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It will be a great show! (Score:0)
not too thrilled... (Score:1)
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S.F. Show (Score:1)
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This world is quite mysterious... (Score:1)
Couldn't help noticing as I first saw their video a while back...and now this...hmmmmm.
Nice to see that he's got some style, anyway. ;)
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I'm in denial (Score:2, Insightful)
Secondly who the f*ck is jaguares? And who cares? I don't think the people who say they will walk out after Morrissey are MORONS. I have skipped opening bands before simply because i didn't care to watch them, have left after a band i liked opened a show and there's really nothing wrong with that, ecspecially in a case like this when some of us might not be fans or care to see a spanish rock band. Great for those who do..
Not that I'd want to see dashboard confessional either..heard quite a few songs a while back and wasn't too impressed. So yeah i hope this is a rumor, I enjoyed depeche mode at the anaheim pond but morrissey.. I'd rather catch him in a small venue. my suggestion for Morrissey would be :: PLAY THE AREA 2 FESTIVAL WITH MOBY AND BOWIE!
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Get A Life Everyone (Score:2, Insightful)
So Morrissey's decided to support a Mexican band in three CALIFORNIA shows. Thank God it's not in any other part of the world for it just might cause a heartattack from some fellow fans. I'm not sure if anyone wants to admit it but their's a shit load of Latino Morrissey fans in southern California. It's obviously has probably worn thin with some original Morrissey fans who probably again where white in the early 80's. Morrissey is milking and pleasing his "CALIFORNIAN LATINO" fanbase with three shows. What in the freakin world is wrong with that. It's obviously playing to your demographics. So give it a rest. It not. Please be direct with your silly comments about your true feelings are spare us with "Oh geez who are these Mexican rockers dudes. I'm not going" If you don't know who what why. Then cut the pussy-footing and just don't go. Cause some do and have a right to embrace such an event.
Seriously, Three california dates with a Mexican band and the world cries freakin murder.
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who cares? (Score:0, Troll)
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Morrissey sucks so bad now (Score:1)
this is the lowest point in Morrissey career. (Score:1)
Wake up folks (Score:2, Insightful)
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Commercial (Score:0)
T-shirt: $25
Souvenir: $10
Seeing my idol and arguably the greatest rock en espanol artists of all-time: Priceless.
no offense (Score:0)
If he decides to support a mexican band or stick to the mexican gang in California I dont give a damn better for some , but for Christ , get inside the studio , get a record deal ...! and stop playing around..
and I dont even believe it ..
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Nonsense (Score:1)
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i have a hard time with the subject line, ok? (Score:2, Interesting)
Morrissey toured on his own successfully to his already established fanbase. That didn't get him a record deal that he wanted nor did it get him a bigger fanbase since most of the people who went were already fans.
So now he is going to do the Japanese festival and the Jaguares thing to a new audience. This I think is a better way of getting a record deal. Promoting the !best of! release to people who haven't heard of him, and trying to get some momentum into building up new interest. That to me is the only way he'll get a deal that he wants.
He can't just cater to his dwindling fanbase. Besides if the rumors of his new songs have a latin feel, then he has reasons for doing the show with Jaguares.
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Mozzer....listen to your own ADVICE!!! (Score:0)
YOU SILLY OLD MAN!
He should do it on his own. (Score:1)
He should just do it on his own.
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bizarre. (Score:1)
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"Stay White"? You ARE a racist! (Score:2, Interesting)
Also, Spanish-speaking people could be not only Indian-Aztec origin, but White, Black, Asian, Jewish, Slavic, Palestinian/Arab, mixture of 2 or 3 or more races etc... I have Slavic-Jewish relatives in Argentina (some of them inter-married with Catholics), for example. Majority of Mexicans and Argentinians are of Indian-Aztec and Spanish ancestry, however many Argentinians have Italian grandparents, there are millions-strong Jewish, Arab and Japanese communities at Chile, Columbia and Argentine, quite a few of Latin Americans have Slavic ancestors from Russia and Poland. Which makes your statement of "staying white" especially idiotic... Latin peoples are of many races! As a matter of fact, Morrissey well-known love of Mexican culture is natural and easily-explained: Both Irish and Mexicans are Catholics, with all the good, wonderful and not so wonderful things this common heritage entitles. The wonderful things are Creativity and Spirituality, love for Jesus and certain idealism the Catholic culture brings into the World. The sad things are social inequality and well-known discrimination against women and gays in both Ireland/England and Mexico. That's why it is easy for Mexican-American Catholic schoolgirl to identify with the plight of Manchester Irish bisexual artistic schoolboy ('lil Steven circa first half of 1970s), who is bullied by his well-meaning, but strict and dogmatic Catholic school teachers and nuns! ('Meat is Murder' album.) Struggle with cultural and social repression of Catholicism, romanticism, spirituality, poetry traditions, anti-imperialist struggle against British empire [for Irish] and against white America imperialistic tendencies [for Mexicans], being an "underdog", all those things are common for Irish and Mexicans. I'm not a Catholic, I'm Jewish, yet Moz appeals to me because his appeal and art are Universal by nature and cuts through religion and race borderlines. Yet, his thing for Mexican culture is very logical and understandable for me. "Esteban, not Steven tour? Why not! I'm not a racist, I'm Cosmopolitan." I think this is a normal reaction of a "white" Moz-fan, but again the whole "white-race" concept is very shaky by itself!
Speaking about Jaguars, I enjoy Jaguares, I like Caifanes (the "motherband" of Jaguars) a lot, especially 2 their albums I own: el Silencio (1992) and another one with dark photo of all four of the Mexican lads: Saul Hernandez, Diego Herrera, Markovich etc... However, I'm not sure that this info (Jaguars & Moz touring together) is true. Like, some people would say (not racists, just normal people), if there is a sea battle ship, there ought to be only one Captain, not two or three. However, if Moz and Jaguars would be able to mix it together smoothly, cheers for both of them! Of course, I (and 99.9% of others) would go!
Bottom line, Eye Kicker, you kicked yourself in the eye right now! And, cheers for all normal Mozfans of all races and religions!
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count me in (Score:0)
These words..... (Score:1)
Some of you need to heed these words-if you love Moz or are a sensible human being.
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Everyone (Score:0)
Emoz (Score:0)
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All this vileness... (Score:0)
Apologies to any casual or first-time visitors to this site that think Moz fans are f*cked.
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The Smiths were quite important you know (Score:0)
Now my heart is smiling!! (Score:0)
i would rather (Score:0)
i would still (Score:0)
Please advise (Score:1)
MOZ IS GOD
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US Moz tour is coming... I'm prepared. :-) (Score:2, Insightful)
#1) His San Diego show (December 1999) was very pleasant and laid-back, Cox Arena had reasonable good acoustics, people were friendly and polite. My friend wanted me to show him Hillcrest scene and we got loaded aftershow... as usual... :-)
#2 and #3) OK, his 2 LA shows (December 1999) were CRAZY, BABE! :-) Somebody got stubbed at first show... Lot of pushing and shoveling and kicking near the stage... :-) Yet, I was lucky to meet many cool people there nevertheless, some of them Orange County, some of them Angelenos. Moz had a good time at LA and was in good shape, but venue (at Sunset Blvd) was too small and shitty (space or lack of it and awful acoustics), people were suffocating near the stage, security were bunch of dickheads, sorry for my French. Yet Moz and fans were mostly cool, except near the stage. Overall, I had a "swell" time, as people of Jazz age would say! LA didn't succeed to ruin those two shows for me and my friend, even if City of Angels tried very hard... :-) Me and my friend had a lot of fan and, not that we are proud of that, we did our own share of craziness there: drinking beers from brown bags, pushin' and screamin' for the sake of good times! When at LA, do as Angelenos do! Right? :-)
I remember, after second show, we (me and my friend) decided to let a good time roll and went to Rage to celebrate Moz, ourselves, and drink some more...
So imagine a picture: me in Moz aka "Maladjusted" tour T-shirt and dirty weared Levi jeans, drunk... with my head on the bar... my black-leathered friend is ordering his 9th long I-land ice-t. My friend (on Hebrew): "Where am I?" Me: "USA. LA. West Hollywood. You are f*cked man, you need some grass to wake up. Everybody must get stoned..." My friend (to me): "You, ugly schmuck, do you love Morrissey... I love him" (sobbing) Me: "I love him too..." (drinking up another Absolute shot) Some Gucci-clad disco-boy Rage patron looking at us with horror: "Ouch, those guys are drunk. Yuck... " My 200-pound 6 foot tall friend responce (with his trademark thick Israeli accent): "I'm not your bitch, don't hang your shit on me". Oh, Madonna Golden Oldies... Next day morning was a time to pay for yesterday fun... I called my boss telling him I'm sick of dangerous form of flu: alcohol-induced Mozfluenzia... Drank a lot of cold sobering-up lemonade to prepare myself for Ventura trip.
#4) The best show was at Ventura 2 days later... Very intimate spirit, Moz at his absolute best, nice city with perfect medium-size venue, wonderful peoples... I was told by some "veteran" of Moz touring, that Ventura show was one of the best ever... I was without my friend at Ventura (his boss didn't let him play hookie from his job, alas), but with very nice and square Mexican-Catholic girl (not girlfriend, just Moz-friend :-)), so no more drinking at Ventura after the show, just coffee and muffin... :-) Nice and quiet. To be 100% honest, I missed my friend at Ventura aftershow a little bit... But Catholic girls are so damn strict. Like nuns. And I confess, I'm not a monk :-)
#5) 2000, March, Irvine, Orange County was only OK, too many screaming 16-year-olds, too impersonal, Moz looked a little tired... Still it was worth seeing him... Aftershow, Irvine "mainstream" sports bar was good to me and my friend up to the point, except he suddenly started fighting 3 OC rednecks over their remarks about his "faggot" leather pants... They would probably kill us, but bouncers saved us, and then those same bouncers kicked us out, so we had to drive to Fire Iseland at Long Beach to nurse our wounds there. Hey, no fight, no good time, right? That's my 5 times seeing Moz.
Again, Moz US shows like people are all different. (Aftershows are all different too! With different drinks consumed...)
Now, next Moz-tour is coming... Me and my friend are all prepared... :-)
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You're kidding me.... (Score:0)
Spanish Rock et al... (Score:0)
We too, would like Morrissey to open for us in the near future.
Sincerely,
La Ley, Mana, Lupillo Riviera, and Menudo
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Hello-This is Shakira (Score:0)
And your prejudice..... (Score:1)
And to the other comment about him staying white.That is pure crap.Morrissey`s music is universal like all great music is.Morrissey does have a large hispanic fanbase because they relate to his music so well.Irish and Latino cultures have a great deal in common.Of course there is the Catholic religion.But there are other things like how families relate in these cultures and both have histories of prejudice and poverty.
Morrissey write about those things.I`ve heard in England people stereotype the Irish.The same thing goes for hispanics in California.Morrissey writes about loneliness and a feeling of not belonging.And of isolation sadness,love,unrequited love.And those are universal themes.Thank goodness Morrissey is not as narrowminded as some of you seem to be.Morrissey is for everyone!And I`ll leave you with something from Morrissey himself "and your prejudice won`t keep you warm tonight".
p.s.I know many hispanics who`ve loved Morrissey and The Smiths since the eighties! And people are not stereotypes they are individuals.So please don`t judge people by what you think they must be like because they belong to a certain group.It benefits no one.
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Brian Gaskill said (Score:0)