With the guile, the ambition, the zeal he feels, this is Morrissey's time to have a #1 Single in the UK Charts. For someone as obsessed and knowledgeable about chart placing(s) as Morrissey, I think it would mean a lot to him to have the #1 song in the land (he has had #1 Solo albums in "Viva Hate" & "Vauxhall & I").

#1 singles have historical significance, they are duly noted, debated, archived, and love them or loathe them, those #1 songs represent the most popular / dominant moods of an era. Let's buck today's trend of mostly crap songs rising to zenith heights for just one week and thrust (I can hear the jokes now) our favourite singer to the top of the UK singles chart. All we have to do is buy the single in the first week and hope that nothing by Keane is released!!

As for the song itself, "You Have Killed Me" is a grower, a safe choice, but catchy enough to make it to the top spot. After all we're talking about an artist that should have a bevy of #1 singles to his credit by now…so Morrissey's persona and our devotion combined with the song should be enough for a #1 hit.

And for those of us in the USA, there's always the Billboard "Modern Rock Charts" where Moz has done quite well.

Seize the day!!

Morrissey's Solo top ten UK hits to date:

Suedehead (#5)

Everyday is Like Sunday (#9)

The Last of The Famous International Playboys (#6)

Interesting Drug (#9)

The More You Ignore Me The Closer I Get (#8)

Irish Blood English Heart (#3)

First of The Gang to Die (#6)

Let Me Kiss You (#8)

I Have Forgiven Jesus (#10)

source: http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/moz-d.htm

You are wrong Mr Ghoul! Doesn't matter how good a song is. If it's starved of airplay it ain't gonna make number one unless the fanbase is huge. YHKM is being released the same week as When You Weren't Famous by odious, half-witted, charmless, super-chav Mike Skinner. It's getting loads of airplay and his fanbase is bafflingly enormous.

YHKM has still probably got Morrissey's best ever chance of a number one single. The number one last week (Orson) sold just 18,000 copies: lowest ever for a number 1 single. I think Irish Blood sold 30,000 so Moz would be in with a shout if a) the Streets new song wasn't out next week and b) a radio station other than Radio 2 had decided to play it, oh and c) Moz hadn't dropped out of Wossie and TOTP at the last minute.
J

So the single was available yesterday? And I walked past my local HMV today...

Why are Santuary doing this? He'll have a No 34 position on Sunday's chart.

Unless it's not counted until the following Sunday or... Anyone know the rules?

The pic with Moz looking at his watch is too blue there. It's really exactly the same shade as the other one.

Well I just went in and 'pre-ordered' YHKM on vinyl in HMV today.

I must have looked like a prat if it's already out. But they didn't say anything.

Has anyone bought it yet then?

...that the person who sent this information had purchased it from a shop which decided to put it out early and therefore got their wires crossed about its overall availability. You'll always get some places which decide to break streedates with new releases - sometimes this might spur other shops in the same area to start selling too, lest they miss out on potential sales. The official release date remains Monday, as evidenced by the single's 'pre-order' status Amazon & HMV.

Have my copy since last Thursday! So have others.
Are we the first?

This is all going tits up it really is

If this counts towards the chart then the placing will be crap, especially when we get warning of it TODAY?? what the hell is going on?

Everyone go to woolworths tomorrow and buy it, but will this be counted towards the chart tomorrow? what a fucking mess.

I was in Glasgow city centre today and didn't see it in any music shops, neither the independent record shops nor the corporate chain stores.

If Moz wants YHKM to have a high chart placing, both he and Sanctuary need to get their acts together sharpish.

"You Have Killed Me", The first UK single of Ringleader Of The Tormentors is being sold at stores starting on a Friday, 3 days before the originally scheduled release date of Mar. 27. Does this mean it will debut in the charts one week earlier on sales of a partial week?

**Above there is no source provided that “You Have Killed Me” is being released 3 days ahead of schedule in the UK. There is no link provided. There is nothing.**
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goinghome writes:
Sanctuary Records have released the single "You Have Killed Me" on three formats in the U.K.: Mini CD single; Maxi CD single; and 7" vinyl single. They are available in shops now as from Friday 24th March (in U.S. from next Tuesday, 28th).

**Goinghome is a well meaning fan from Ireland. Obviously “You Have Killed Me” was put out by the shop in his town a few days early.**

The U.K. Mini CD single tracklisting is:
"You Have Killed Me"
"Good Looking Man About Town"

The U.K. Maxi CD single tracklisting is:
"You Have Killed Me"
"Human Being"
"I Knew I Was Next"
"You Have Killed Me" (video)

The U.K. 7" vinyl single tracklisting is:
"You Have Killed Me"
"Good Looking Man About Town

Details are on www.true-to-you.net.

**The details which come from True To You, the links there, don’t provide evidence for the quote I noted which has no source at the very top or Goinghome’s assertion that the single is being released early in the UK. The links below this come from previous stories and they support the original release dates. I have deleted them in my post here now only for space reasons but you can see them in red links above**
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Once again, David Tseng plays his little game of posting the post unfounded, scandalous, and titillating “news”; items that will elicit the most hits, provide the most controversy, and generate the greatest discussion about absolute bollocks. The fact is that if this information (that a few record stores put the single out early) gets out to those who run the charts in the UK, this single will be disqualified from chart competition. If the NME picks up this story, it's over, and that hurts Moz. Knowing this, why would David T. post the story? Is he stupid? Does he not think about the consequences of his postings? Or does he have more sinister aims? Does he have it in for Morrissey?

It is this kind of thing that makes a person wonder about David T’s motives. If in fact the single was out, many fans would be coming forward on the general discussion messageboard, emailing David, submitting such news, to provide some evidence for the claim. But instead of waiting for one shred of evidence (beyond this nonce in Ireland reporting) to support the notion, Tseng goes ahead and publishes the story anyway. I suspect that in the Morrissey world David Tseng wants to go down as a martyr of some sort. He seems to now possess that martyrdom like complex – where everything is an attack on him and he is being stoned – but can’t see his own flaws. And registered users who come forth to question Tseng are immediately placed in the dog pound where David lets them know in little ways that they are persona non grata. I suspect if this gets back to Sanctuary there will be more letters from lawyers charging that David has placed this issue in a false light which is actionable in law.

The single is not allowed to be sold before release day in the UK. It will not be on sale until the Monday.

Once or twice, specific shops have fallen foul of the chart rules in the UK, but those sales have been cancelled and the shops have been reprimanded. Normally it's just 1 or 2 CD's that are sold before the manager gets to find out....

Not really a story is it ? !

Well - I've had email confirmation that my HMV pre-orders have already been shipped. Fine and dandy for me, as with the delay of the post they wont get here till Monday anyway - but will all those pre-sales via mail order still count for next weeks chart?

I presumed that if I could purchase the singles in Ireland on Friday which I did, that meant they'd be out in England too. Generally marketting seems to be directed to 2 main sectors, the U.S. and the U.K. However some posters have revealed that they obtained the singles even earlier in Holland, on the Thursday. Maybe rules can be slightly altered per region. If the impact is significant for chart placement, Sanctuary would be wise to factor it in. Anyways, apologies if my slightly incomplete information was misleading. Between us all, the picture is becoming clearer.

Today's Irish Times newspaper announces that Morrissey will appear on Top of the Pops tomorrow (Sunday) night. Though I find that very unlikely given recent events, I thought I'd mention it anyway. Could they perhaps just play the video, though new releases are mainly live, aren't they?

Thousands upon thousands will attend Morrissey's shows across the UK, plus all the thousands who can't attend for one reason or another. If 20 or 25 thousand is all it takes to guarantee a #1, what's the problem? Do most people who spend considerable money to attend shows not buy singles? And if not, why not? Has downloading really hurt business? Do people just wait for the album and not care about b-sides...?

hmv online ship friday/saturday so you will have the release on release day, they always do that, if you have pre-ordered that is, as for the stores they will have the single, but it wont be put on the shelves till monday..... get this i rang hmv manchester (main store of vinyl) to pre-order the 7"(1 month ago), i wanted 4 copies, they said (team leader) sorry only 1 copy per person, when i said why this is not a ltd release, they said sorry that is the what we have been told with this single, they had plenty of time to order some extra, this is what we are up against so mozz at number 1, i doubt it, left on the shelf more like

Just picked up Cd1 and Cd2 from HMV in Speke, Liverpool. Had to ask for it - girl asked one of the other assistants something, disappeared and came back asking which I wanted. Both thanks.

If you don't ask, you don't get.

Because of my interest on this movie I started a search thru Wyoming State, USA and have found a small town called Morrissey!!!!!!!

http://www.ultimatewyoming.com/sectionpages/sec3/m orrissey.html

Please share with us how are the b-side songs.

Do'h! Who wrote 'Good looking Man About Town' then - 'Morrissey/Whyte' as the sleeve states, or 'Morrissey/Tobias' as the disc label says?

Wow, it's actually happened. Morrissey has the number 1 single in the UK charts! Well, sort of!
It's the Woolworths chart issued today...
http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/browse/index.jht ml?cat=cat160294
The Woolworths chart is usually reasonably accurate (I think Irish Blood was given number 5). Can't see him beating the Streets though but you never know.
J

Number 1 guaranteed. Have just ordered 25,000 copies from HMV. Hope they take a cheque

I'm not sure why so many people seem to think The Streets are sure to be number 1. "Dry Your Eyes" is Skinner's only number 1 so far, and that was a big cross-over hit. The most relevant comparison is the lead single off the last album, "Fit But You Know It", which is very much the same kind of song as the current single and got massive airplay, but which only got to number 4. (The two singles after "Dry Your Eyes" got to numbers 10 and 40 respectively.) So I don't think it's a sure thing at all.

...to remember that buying 1, 2 or 10 at a time it only counts as ONE unit sold! So go in again and again if you want both copies to count.

Also buy from major retailers as some places you can buy from don't count as sales...

Sean

Just for all your information. For some reason, all albums and singles released in the UK on a Monday are always out on the Friday before in Ireland.
I don't know the reason - could be a distribution or promotional issue, but it's the same for all artists.

Great tunes both!

I'm one of the fans who is always trying to defend Morrissey from all the naysayers going on about the music of the band, and how they are leeched of what they had, but... This time, I really am pretty disappointed.. Well.. I don't know, maybe disappointed isn't the word, more dreading.. I haven't heard the album yet, I'm a stayer and waiting for release but bought all of the singles today, the two CDs and the 7" vinyl...

Fair enough, they are B-sides, but of 3, I expect to like at least one in a "full" form (not just enjoying BITS). Parts of Good Looking Man are really good, like the energetic surge of guitar in the middle, and the pretty decent ending.. And the singing of the last line is also excellent.. But, I think I've began to dislike Morrissey's modern-day voice. The whole high pitched thing just doesn't do it for me, like You Have Killed Me, which is ALL in this way, probably the reason I just can't get into it as much as I would hope. I mean, I like it and have listened numerous times.. I just can't see myself listening to it on the thousandth listen when I'm on the train home.

The songs, to me, are simply too "playful"... Like, not too serious. To me, this is why people started disliking work since Southpaw, the songs became unserious. Roy's Keen for example.. Enjoyable, yet impossible to fall in love with. The same for Satan.. Whereas Alma Matters was a different story, there was a "serious" side to it in the lyrics, aswell as the music. It's what I guess I'm hoping for in Life Is A Pigsty.

I guess, if I look at it from another point of view, I despised the Malajusted B Sides, so I shouldn't really compare. Haha, except for The Edges Are and Lost, two of my favourite Morrissey songs full stop.

The one thing against Morrissey's band I do now have, is the seeming (given these B Sides anyway) tendencies they have towards one guitar effect per album. They seem to have found a new one on this album, and are going with it. The same went for Quarry. Your Arsenal also but the music in that was so good that this could be looked past. It is however another reason of why Vauxhall was so good, the songs were all so so different in sound. Anyway, enough. I look forward to the album next week!

I feel like I've been caught red-handed and have caused Julia to have to go to the bother of posting the announcement about the release dates again, which has been done on the site today - www.true-to-you.net , along with a statement from Morrissey about why he won't be playing any concerts in Canada as a seal-hunt protest:

You Have Killed Me: Single released today in the U.K.
27 March 2006

The fantastic first single from Ringleader Of The Tormentors - "You Have Killed Me" - is released on Attack Records today in the U.K. (on the 28th of March in the U.S.).

The single is available on three formats in the U.K.: Mini CD single; Maxi CD single; and 7" vinyl single.

The U.K. Mini CD single tracklisting is:

"You Have Killed Me"
"Good Looking Man About Town"

The U.K. Maxi CD single tracklisting is:

"You Have Killed Me"
"Human Being"
"I Knew I Was Next"
"You Have Killed Me" (video)

The U.K. 7" vinyl single tracklisting is:

"You Have Killed Me"
"Good Looking Man About Town"

Statement from Morrissey
27 March 2006

Statement from Morrissey:

"We will not include any Canadian dates on our world tour to promote our new album. This is in protest against the barbaric slaughter of over 325,000 baby seals which is now underway.
I fully realise that the absence of any Morrissey concerts in Canada is unlikely to bring the Canadian economy to its knees, but it is our small protest against this horrific slaughter - which is the largest slaughter of marine animal species found anywhere on the planet.
The Canadian Prime Minister says the so-called "cull" is economically and environmentally justified, but this is untrue.
The seal population has looked after itself for thousand of years without human intervention, and, as the world knows, this slaughter is about one thing only: making money. The Canadian government will stream all of the pelts into the fashion industry and this is the reason why the baby seals are killed with spiked clubs that crush their skulls - any damage to their pelts is avoided. The Canadian Prime Minister also states that the slaughter is necessary because it provides jobs for local communities, but this is an ignorant reason for allowing such barbaric and cruel slaughter of beings that are denied life simply because somebody somewhere might want to wear their skin.
Construction of German gas chambers also provided work for someone - this is not a moral or sound reason for allowing suffering.
If you can, please boycott Canadian goods. It WILL make a difference. As things stand, Canada has placed itself alongside China as the cruelest and most self-serving nation."

I really dislike YHKM so I expected the b-sides to be a bit guff, but I was actually surprised at how good they were.

Gotta love the Dolls cover. ;D