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on Saturday April 17 2004, @11:30PM
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live from Vegas --- (Score:1)
- im sure better coverage will come in soon.
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Re:75 minutes is just way too damn short! (Score:2)
2. The Beatles played a mere 25 minutes at Shea Stadium and created an industry (of stadium shows, never had been done before)...and a special on ABC-TV
3. Morrissey has an instinct for what to do and how to do it -- not really good to question it.
Thanks to troubled j for the set list and others for the Vegas reports tonight.
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Las Vegas show, 4/17 (Score:0)
He did a lot from the new CD, as well. In fact, he started the evening with, "The First of the Gang to Die." (He also did, "I Like You," "How Could Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel?" and "America Is Not the World.")
He looks great, sounds great and did a great show. However, I'm not sure what the flowering branch was doing sticking out of his pants zipper at the beginning of the show! ;)
Steven
Las Vegas, is that all (Score:0)
damn he looks good!!!!!!!!! (Score:0)
opening band? (Score:0)
attempt at a setlist (Score:2, Informative)
the first of the gang to die
hairdresser on fire
america is not the world
i have forgiven Jesus
the headmaster ritual
i like you
everyday is like sunday
such a little thing makes such a big difference
a rush and a push and the land is ours
little man, what now
jack the ripper
no one can hold a candle to you
how can anyone possibly know how i feel
the world is full of crashing bores
hand in glove
irish blood english heart
(encore)
there is a light that never goes out
the intro was great -- lasted about five minutes with the lights down waiting for the band to enter the stage.
the t-shirts left something to be desired. the only picture one is the cover of quarry with the tommy gun. peta was there with a great morrissey poster which was, unfortunately, not for sale.
no opening band, though mark simpson reading or stripping or something would have been great!
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Re:no one can hold a candle to you (Score:3, Informative)
the setlist was great -- the crowd knew most of the new stuff from downloading. actually, "irish," "first" and "crashing" seem like classics now. "Jesus" is a beautful song, "america" needs to grow on me. the song that stole the show for me, though, was "candle" -- dunno why. it just grabbed me.
by the way, there was a meshing of songs -- "everyday" started as another song with a full verse before drifting back into "everyday" ... much like "rusholm" on "rank." don't know if it is a new song or a cover -- i didn't recognize it.
for the one who asked, m wore a blue dress shirt with grey slacks. for the encore, he wore a white shirt -- didn't see his shoes. guess he tossed the cargo pants and frumpy grandpa sweater by the wayside.
and does boz look like chandler bing?
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Wow! (Score:0)
"No One Can Hold A Candle To You" (Score:2, Informative)
Morrissey interviewed on KCXX Radio, San Bernardino, August 9, 1998
Another Fawning Fan:
I can barely hear you but I'm going to ask this question and maybe you can answer it. There's a song called "No One Can Hold A Candle To You" by Ray-Mone-Day and there was a rumor that you were going to record that.
That's right. How did you hear the rumor? I'm fascinated to know. How did you hear about it? And they were actually called Raymonde but people would say Raymoande and they were a great group. Do you know anything about them?
I do, it's a b-side, yeah but I can barely, barely hear you.
Yeah, but you've never actually heard the group Raymonde? You've never heard them?
Yes, Ray-mone-day, absolutely.
Have you heard the song?
No, I haven't heard the song. I've heard another song called "Ray-mone-day". It's a really good song.
It's a great song, yeah. I did want to do it. I did want to record it a long time ago. But something happened - something silly and messy and something to do with publishing and so forth, but it's something that I'd still quite like to do. So it just didn't happen because of a silly, messy reason, really, but it's a great song.
Yes it is, I'm sorry, I can barely hear you.
Well, that's okay, I'm not saying anything very intelligent anyway.
[...]"
[http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1998/radio.htm]
was there a keyboard player? (Score:0)
No, I did not spend it... (Score:1)
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SetList...(I got it) (Score:2, Informative)
2. hairdresser on fire
3. america is not the world
4. i like you
5. the headmaster ritual
6. subway...into...everyday is like sunday
7. i have forgiven jesus
8. how can anybody possibly know how i feel?
9. such a little thing makes such a big difference...into little man what now?
10. i'm not sorry
11. a rush and a push and the land is ours
12. the world is full of crashing bores
13. all the lazy dykes
14. no one can hold a candle to you (cover)
15. jack the ripper
16. hand in glove
17. irish blood, english heart
**encore**there is a light that never goes out
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No-One can hold a candle to you (Score:3, Informative)
It's the first track on the album "Babelogue", released in 1987.
There's no lyric sheet with the LP, but I've transcribed lyrics as best I can (bits in asterisk, I'm not to sure of)
"Say farewell to your fare-weather friends,
And not a second too soon,
To leave a life among ruins,
Oh there was nothing left but you.
Cut ourselves loose,
These fascists and philistines, of violence and fashion,
These modern-day philistines,
They stamped on your hands, they stamped on my hands,
Any day now will perish,
These are *?* times.
No-one can hold a candle to you,
When it comes down to virtue and truth,
No-one can hold a candle to you,
And I will die *next you you*."
And that's about it, give or take a few unintelliable ad-libs on the chorus towards the end. It is a good song, and sound a bit like "Your Arsenal" era Moz.
Best Raymonde song, however, has to be "Jennifer Says".
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Re:No-One can hold a candle to you (Score:2, Informative)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/loafingoafs/
It's in the FILES section.
Make sure you register first.
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by the way.... (Score:1)
(User #762 Info)
Meat is Murder (Score:0)
More details please! (Score:1)
Backdrop?
Keyboard player present?
Moz attire??
Lads' attire?
Thanks!
Great to hear they're doing "A Rush..." and "Such a Little Thing..."!
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Re:More details please! (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:More details please! (Score:2, Informative)
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Recordings? (Score:1)
Cheers
/ Martin, Stockholm, Sweden.
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Re:Recordings? (Score:2, Interesting)
I put the regular digital pix here:
http://www.msnusers.com/MorrisseyinVegasattheJointHardRock4172004/shoebox.msnw
Cheers!
Jay "Some Totally Random Moz Fan"
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Ms Riley (Score:1)
And did he make any reference to her inbetwixt songs?
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Like Simon would say..Let's be honest.... (Score:0)
1. Opening with FOTGTD is wrong on every level. Just not an opening song.
2. Once again we get Hairdressr, Jack the Ripper, There is a Light as a closer. For a show that is ony 70 mins, he needs to drop these songs. How bout some other unplayed songs are songs Uncle, Arsenal, Vauxhall, B-Sides?
3. A 70 min set! That is just patetic. Every tour we get the same short set. It is a rip to the fans and Moz knows it. And he is charging $75 for tix.
Like I said, I am a huge fan and love the addition of Rush,Such a little thing, Little Man. Never really like Hand in Glove but I guess its cool he is doing it.
photos (Score:2, Informative)
Camden and Last (Score:1)
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What an awesome set list.... (Score:0)
Jose
damn (Score:1)
so jealous...
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Newspaper reviews? (Score:1)
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Jack The Ripper (Score:1)
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Subway (Score:0)
Would any of you know?
Vegas Shows (Score:1)
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lasvegas ie LA jr. (Score:1)
"no one actually lives in las vegas"
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Teasers and Spoilers (Score:2, Interesting)
The intro music was very cool. I wondered if he could top Nico's The End. This might not have topped that, but it was very fitting. There was a sparkly backdrop curtain that had wind blown through it and light cast from the left side of the stage so that when the curtain shimmied, it looked tantalizingly like the band was walking around back there. It reminded me a bit of the opening for Cure's Disintegration tour in 89. :)
He came out with what appeared to be mistletoe hung suggestively over his crotch. It was off and flung into the crowd pretty quickly, though. His coiff looked amazing. I didn't think he had it in him anymore.
His dark blue button up shirt showed a little too well the residuals of his physicality (to speak euphemistically).
He said that while it's not right to experiment on animals, it is okay to experiment on people and therefore he'd be trying out some new songs.
He teased (twice?) that they'd be in tune for the Anaheim show.
He said that because we (the audience) were probably all fans of the 80's [and God knows why you are], he was going to do a song from the 80's and then offered 20 dollars to anyone who could identify. After singing it, someone in the front row immediately identified the song, and the promised was handed over to the person via security guard.
While singing "Such a Little Thing's" "written words on paper, can you write?" he picked up a fan's enveloped addressed in big hand-written letters to Morrissey.
Security was ample. A few people almost made it onto the stage, but they had to settle for a clasp of Morrissey's hand.
Morrissey apologized for the Spin magazine cover photo which he seemed not to like.
He described "There is a Light.." as being some other song at first: "Because We Must"? something different, but then it became obvious what song it was.
The band exited one by one: Morrissey first, Keyboardist last. I really liked the added dimension of the keyboardist, and he was easy on the eyes, to boot. ;)
There were shirts, posters, and buttons. $30 for shirts. $10 for poster, and I think? $10 for buttons. They ran out of the only pictorial shirt (Quarry cover) before all wants were sated.
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Play the Netherlands! (Score:1)
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Subway (Score:0)
Has anyone noticed, re: this set list..... (Score:0)
I went to the first of two nights at Washington DC on the 2000 tour, and was hoping, begging, praying to hear my fave song of his, "Now My Heart Is Full".... no dice, he didn't play it :-( But then he proceeds to play it the SECOND night in DC, which i don't get to see! WTF!
And now, apparently, for this tour he is doing NOTHING from Vauxhall or Arsenal... ugh. I know nobody here likes people complaining about Moz's choices, and i WILL see him if he comes to TX, etc. etc. but i am HUGELY disappointed to not see anything from those two albums, particularly Vauxhall.
The lone consolation being that Jack the Ripper (still from around his epic '94-'95 period) and Rush and a Push (off the best Smiths album) are present in the setlist.
-- J.T. Ripper (need to find my login pwd again!)
Pix from the he Moz Vega$ show (Score:1)
I snuck in my camera- here are the digital pix I took:
http://www.msnusers.com/MorrisseyinVegasattheJointHardRock4172004/shoebox.msnw
I got QuickTime video and sound of the opening song "The First of the Gang To Die" but it is 65 MB and unless I find a LOT more web space it won't be anywhere online
BUT- If you are REALLY bored you can load this QuickTime video of Leslie and I on the road:
http://home.comcast.net/~jaytando/Morrissey-In-Vegas-Hard-Rock-Joint-2004/Leslie -Drive-To-Vegas.MOV
Cheers!
Jay "Some Totally Random Moz fan"
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Backdrops? (Score:1)
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A little off topic... (Score:0)
http://free.inkfrog.com/pix/evildeadite/MozChair.jpg
I hope you enjoy it. It's the best I could do.
Not that good (Score:2, Interesting)
To be honest, I expected better. Then again, it's probably because it was the first night of the tour, so hopefully things will improve -- the opening Arizona shows from the last two tours started out kinda the same way. I'll find out at tonights show (The Grove) and at the Wiltern shows.
Anyways, the setlist was cool and all, but he seemed to lack the energy and the vocal abilities of years past to deliver them properly. He wasn't able to hit the notes too well on songs such as Everyday is like Sunday and The Headmaster Ritual. When he was whippping the mic cord around, as well, it seemed like a half-hearted attempt.
He wasn't even that talkative. He only interacted with the audience every now and then.
All the people saying the show was great are either:
1) Letting their admiration for Morrissey cloud their opinions/judgements
2) It was their first time seeing him, therefore they had no prior show(s) to compare it to
3) Don't want to admit the truth because it hurts
4) Are deaf and blind
I just know this will get modded as Troll or Flamebait, but this is my personal opinion and is also based on seeing him dozens and dozens and dozens of times before.
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Re:Not that good (Score:2, Insightful)
First, Morrissey was *WORLD* premiering a number of new songs. These songs have not been time-tested live; nor is there any grounds for patter related to the songs. For example, Morrissey can't very well talk about the subject matter of a song that's never been heard before. *thinks of Elton John and crashing bores comments*
Second, a good performance is a good performance. I think the *best* people to ajudge the goodness of a show would be those who've never seen him before. They come in fresh, and this is good. I spoke to a couple people that fell into this category, and they all enjoyed the concert very much.
Third, Morrissey's mic-whipping has not been up to the levels exhibited during the Arsenal tours. And so what? If we were to judge the quality of shows by what happened in the past, we should all be very dismayed because there weren't gladioli sticking out of his pants and no hearing aid in his ear. His theatricality was amply appropriate, especially for the songs with which people were familiar. Even the new songs were reasonably supported. The sound was very good. There were only a couple moments (at the start of one new song in particular) where the vocals were a little inaudible. Alain sounded spot-on during Jack the Ripper (and so he should with all that practice). The band leads to point four.
They are starting a new band member. I think it's unfair to think that an new band member won't impact a performance: *especially* the first performance!
The vocals sounded fine, too. Peronally, I was happier with his vocals this go 'round than with the last tour. That goes doubly for Morrissey's looks.
Finally, the stage not only seemed smaller than others I've seen, but the barrier was prohibitively far away from the stage for more interaction with the audience.
The only thing I have any fault with was the decision (management's?) to charge 55+ for a General Admission show, especially when Morrissey historically (and quite forgiveably) does 70-ish minute shows. Other than that, I'm a quite happy customer.
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I am Fucking tired of.... (Score:0)
What does a Morrissey audience smell like? (Score:1)
;)
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Ok, (Score:0)
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What Tour Merchandise was available? (Score:0)
Security at The Joint (Score:1)
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What was the average age (aprox) of the audience? (Score:1)
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Las Vegas Show (Score:1)
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Did any fans get on stage... (Score:1)
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QuickTime Video - 1st Song From The Show (Score:1)
Okay here is a QuickTime Video of the first song from the Vega$ show "The First of the Gang To Die" - it is 65 MB and the quality is crappy but here you go!
[indieprinting.com] From an FTP server [indieprinting.com]
[indieprinting.com] From a Bit Torrent Server [aloneta.mine.nu]
Cheers!
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Excellent review at Ambitious Outsiders.com (Score:0)
Nothing beats Moz at the Joint in Vegas Superb! (Score:1)
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